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<DIV>On May 28 Andre wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt tahoma"><FONT face=Calibri><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> I am not a criminal and not a criminal company. So,
I do<BR>> not have criminal competitors.</FONT></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Although this phrase is beyond my capacity for
understanding, I think I should greet you for not fearing unfair
competition.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV><FONT face=Calibri><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Just on a side note, my opinion is that you calling
Martin Hetzner a<BR>> Nazi (and a sociopath) is not acceptable
behavior.</FONT></FONT><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>I'll explain to you what is not acceptable
behavior:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>1- It is you being customer of a provider owner
with a professional life history worthy of an arrogant sociopath with the
attitudes of a Nazi despot - reread the curriculum I related.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>2- It is you acting like some Afrikaners who
defended the principles of the National Socialist Party - read Nazism - that
gave support to the maintenance of apartheid in your homeland. Heil
Hetzner!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>3- It is an ISP owner refusing to suspend a
reported customer numerous times, for 18 months, with evidence of the practice
of crime.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>4- It is an ISP owner to allow a victim of his
client to spend 18 months denouncing the same scam, the same
scammer.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> It is hate speech in
itself and disrespectful to civil society.</FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT size=3
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<DIV><BR><FONT face=Calibri><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">A hate speech: If I
lived in Germany I would have sued this tramp. From where I am I can only insult
and report him to the world.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Disrespect to civil society are his relationships
with sociopath despots like Putin, are his attacks on freedom of the press, are
his pursuits those who fight spammers and give support for reported
criminals.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Disrespect to civil society it is to defend and
hire the services of people who should be arrested.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Heil Coetzee!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Marilson</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=andre@ox.co.za
href="mailto:andre@ox.co.za">ox</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:21 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=marilson.mapa@gmail.com
href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">Marilson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net
href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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Sat, 27 May 2017 21:26:42 -0300<BR>"Marilson" <marilson.mapa@gmail.com>
wrote:<BR>> <BR>> If you continue to call your competitors from criminal
companies<BR>> someone will call you Pot. :)<BR>> <BR>No, firstly, there
is no competition between lists... All lists have<BR>different data and
sometimes different priorities and focus. (Did you<BR>see the SORBS lists 30
days, recent, all time - this has time focus -<BR>some lists adds weight for
RIR, some lists focus on actual syndicates,<BR>some on actual bot tech, some
aggregate bots & syndicates - for<BR>example - on your one IP number you may
be hosting 900 domains and<BR>only one of those belong to a crime syndicate
sending spear or to a<BR>child pornographer. - if you are on that list - find
your criminal - and get rid of them...<BR>some lists are rolled by hand,
dedicated and with zero (or next to<BR>zero) false positives. some lists
randomly list ip numbers, etc.<BR><BR>a list is a list and the quality of a list
depends on the maintenance thereof and <BR>the value it ads to society. This
value is sometimes displayed in the<BR>'score' or numerical weight attached to
programs similar to spamassassin<BR>assigned to a list by independent
users.<BR><BR>Secondly, I am not a criminal and not a criminal company. So, I
do<BR>not have criminal competitors.<BR><BR>Lastly, if there is a list that is
listing other lists for no reason and also lists <BR>honeynets (traps) and
victims - the advantage for doing that is only to<BR>criminal enterprise.
<BR><BR>Just on a side note, my opinion is that you calling Martin Hetzner
a<BR>Nazi (and a sociopath) is not acceptable behavior.<BR><BR>It is hate speech
in itself and disrespectful to civil
society.<BR><BR>Andre<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>