<HTML><HEAD></HEAD> <BODY dir=ltr> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"> <DIV>Dear Gert, </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Your speech is confusing and ambiguous. Cohesion and Coherence are fundamental in textual construction. Coherence is the logical relation of the ideas of a text that derives from its argument - a result of the knowledge of the message transmitter.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A contradictory and redundant text is an incoherent text. Your text resembles this phrase: "He is a vegetarian and likes a juicy steak."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">There is a famous saying from the United States Supreme Court: Absolutely no one has the freedom to falsely shout fire in a theater and create panic.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV>That fine line between "freedom of speech" and "violating the freedom of others" is based on the same directives that dictate the laws: common sense and habits and customs of the time. I never scream "fire", I always complain with evidence.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But you're screaming "fire" where there is no fire. I wonder why?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>> Nobody has the right to personally attack others - or force others to listen to his droning on, by filling their listening channels.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You are attacking me because I said:</DIV> <DIV>"<EM>I may not agree to any of the words you say, but I will defend to the death the right of you to say them."</EM></DIV> <DIV>Or because I said that your colleagues, ISP owners, are criminals?</DIV> <DIV>Do you have listening channels in your eyes? I suggest that you cover your eyes not to listen to my voice messages.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Freedom of information concerns the individual right to freely communicate facts and the diffuse right to be informed of them; Freedom of expression, in turn, is intended to protect the right to express ideas, opinions, judgments of value, in short, any manifestation of human thought.<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"> But both require *real events* as basis. Perhaps that is why US law, the European Convention on Human Rights (Article 10.1) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Article 19) treat the two freedoms together.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV>I've been attacked several times, as I am now, and no one says shit.<BR></DIV> <DIV>> This list is like a private club. Yes, anyone can state their opinion, but if they start to annoy the other patrons, the landlord is free to ask them to state their opinion elsewhere.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt tahoma"> <DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>This list is not a private club. </FONT></DIV> <DIV>It is open to anyone from any part of the planet. But the effort to turn it into a private club is visible.</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Calibri><FONT size=3>Shane, congratula��es pelo <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">Mozilla Open Source Support award to Kea.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Calibri><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Calibri><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">Marilson</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"> <DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=gert@space.net href="mailto:gert@space.net">Gert Doering</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 17, 2017 1:19 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=marilson.mapa@gmail.com href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">Marilson</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=shane@time-travellers.org href="mailto:shane@time-travellers.org">Shane Kerr</A> ; <A title=anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [anti-abuse-wg] WG Chair Mailing List Decision</DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>