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<p>btw it would be of great assistance in this matter if transit
carriers, simply, only HAD asn's and no ip prefixes that can be
used as a blackmailing vector. don't quite see why everyone
combines the 'isp' part with the 'transit providing' part of their
operations. parties that provide transit, have no need for ip
space (bgp sessions are better on 10.0.0.0/8 anyway, prevents
attack from 'outside'). if there are no ip's there is nothing
idiots like spamhaus (so far they are the only ones) can
'blacklist' to 'build up pressure' to breach contracts. so just
split up those operations.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30 ينا, 2017 م 12:32, HRH Prince
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<p>customer wants to send packets from ip A to ip b... did they
arrive? -> yes. we did our job. no -> we did not do our
job. i can't quite see why we would even need to know what
'smtp' is. nor any of the other obscure shit protocols out
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<p>content. is NEVER. network-related-abuse.</p>
<p>'making more use of a mail protocol that in every other way
is used as intended' is also not 'network-related-abuse' in
fact it's not abuse at all. it's like tv advertisements.</p>
<p>'malware and virusses' all simply exploit the same old
services 'provided' by crappy windows malware, which should
get some import restrictions, and the problem is solved ay.
it's windows itself that is the malware there... <br>
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<p>'phishing'... so you're saying your bank login procedure
sucks balls and/or you think 16 numbers on the front and 3 top
secret ones on the back of a plastic card people show in every
restaurant they go to are 'security' - go fix your own crap
and stop bothering us, we forward -packets-. we don't have
time to hunt ghosts for your broken financial services.<br>
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<p>'announcing the whole god damn internet split up into /24s'..
- yes .. that's 'abuse'. lol.</p>
<p>and either way... if someone doesn't like what someone else
is doing they can take them to the -appropriate- courts (of
the other party) and try to get them to stop... blackmailing
the sales department of the transit carriers of their supplier
of their supplier of their supplier, will only make them
change isps, cause financial loss (or gains: setup fees), etc.</p>
<p>so far all spamhaus has ever established is:</p>
<p>- a whole lot of unroutable/unsellable/unusable ipv4 'burned'
ranges.</p>
<p>- smtp is no longer peer to peer (their bashing on open
relays)</p>
<p>- smtp is no longer real time (graylisting)</p>
<p>- smtp is no longer reliable (with over 20 million ip
addresses listed despite there only being 300k mailservers in
the world, no wonder!)</p>
<p>so instead of stopping spam, they managed to kill of smtp.
congratulations.</p>
<p>everyone now uses skype and facebook (which are real-time and
do have friends-lists) lolol. you have succeeded in bringing
microsoft and facebook users to spy on. well done.<br>
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<p>if smtp is 'getting less' that is only because it has no
users left. people only start it up to read ripe mailinglists
(lol) or sign up for habbo hotel. FACT. lol.</p>
<p>none of our customers has ever sent UCE from our networks...
because... ever since 2004... we have simply blocked port
25... smtp only causes -shit- and it -delivers shit-
(abusemail and 'legal' threats about shit that is not our
problem). we sure as hell have some customers that cause
'shit' but they usually do it in somewhat more profitable
markets than sending 'spam' and most definately can buy a tv
station or 2 to do their advertisements on. tyvm spamhaus.
lol.</p>
<p>where this 'mytical' spammer that can pay our 1000-1500 euros
per month per server would come from, i don't know, i
certainly have never met any... i tried to invoice one 60k
once and he backed off already. poor spammers. they're like
child porn people. can't pay for anything, so not an urgent
issue at all.</p>
<p>our customers frequently have the entire fucking cia rolling
over their doorstep and if it's not them its the god damn
copyright mafia. slightly different budgetarial picture there.
shit that -is- worth the trouble.<br>
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<p>now, please take your shitty nagging about 'abuse' of your
crappy silly old smtp protocol, which doesn't even -originate-
from our networks in the first fucking place, and stick it
where the sun doesn't shine... as for malware... windows is
the malware there... it facilitates all the programs residing
on top of the same old 1990s badly implemented os/2 ripoff
crap. so basically call mickeysoft and ask them to fix the
bugs they all exploit, or call the european commission and
impose trade bans against microsoft. simple enough.<br>
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<p>advertising the sale of : viagra, sex slaves, ak47s, porn
of any kind, human trafficing services, specific animals,
cocain, data obtained through espionage, encryption
technology, vpns, gay propaganda, military propaganda, etc
is subject to applicable local law (if any, and if there is
none, it's perfectly fine)... not 'spamhaus policies' as
spamhaus is not supposed to be 'the internet government'.
even if they think they should be.</p>
<p>if the uk wants to keep certain products from entering
'their' territory (and in doing so limit the freedom of
their own stakeholders/tax payers) that is up to them others
choose not to work against their own stakeholders/tax payers
that way. they have a customs department to keep said
products outside. can't tell others not to produce or sell
or advertise it. setting up dirty front operations like
'spamhaus' to lure naive nerds into the illusion that they
would be 'fighting spam' is a very nasty thing to do.
geo-political wise and business wise.<br>
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<p>now... in thailand porn is illegal... so... let's
disconnect all porn sites because thailand wants us to, oh
but wait, thailand doesn't have a 'spamhaus' thinking they
rule the entire internet through means of blackmail and
calling people 'spammers' or 'spam supporters'.</p>
<p>what also works, besides blackmailing with committing
computer sabotage against the sales department of suppliers
of suppliers of suppliers of the publisher of a website,
are: assassins, commandos, carpet bombing, agent orange.
etc... all of which should be deployed against spamhaus if
you ask me. :P but a nullroute would suffice. lol. after all
bgp is an 'advisory' to 'voluntary peers' and 'we don't
block anything' as they themselves always say.<br>
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<p class="gmail_msg">also it's quite vague that when
some mossadis rent servers and run an espionage
botnet on it (which we happily intercept ourselves
ofcourse) - spamhaus somehow magically never lists
-that-.. just</p>
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<div>Looking at the amusing rant of Sven Olaf, it seems
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<div>Keep up the good work, spamhaus et al!</div>
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