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<p>content. is NEVER. network-related-abuse.</p>
<p>'making more use of a mail protocol that in every other way is
used as intended' is also not 'network-related-abuse' in fact it's
not abuse at all. it's like tv advertisements.</p>
<p>'malware and virusses' all simply exploit the same old services
'provided' by crappy windows malware, which should get some import
restrictions, and the problem is solved ay. it's windows itself
that is the malware there... <br>
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<p>'phishing'... so you're saying your bank login procedure sucks
balls and/or you think 16 numbers on the front and 3 top secret
ones on the back of a plastic card people show in every restaurant
they go to are 'security' - go fix your own crap and stop
bothering us, we forward -packets-. we don't have time to hunt
ghosts for your broken financial services.<br>
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<p>'announcing the whole god damn internet split up into /24s'.. -
yes .. that's 'abuse'. lol.</p>
<p>and either way... if someone doesn't like what someone else is
doing they can take them to the -appropriate- courts (of the other
party) and try to get them to stop... blackmailing the sales
department of the transit carriers of their supplier of their
supplier of their supplier, will only make them change isps, cause
financial loss (or gains: setup fees), etc.</p>
<p>so far all spamhaus has ever established is:</p>
<p>- a whole lot of unroutable/unsellable/unusable ipv4 'burned'
ranges.</p>
<p>- smtp is no longer peer to peer (their bashing on open relays)</p>
<p>- smtp is no longer real time (graylisting)</p>
<p>- smtp is no longer reliable (with over 20 million ip addresses
listed despite there only being 300k mailservers in the world, no
wonder!)</p>
<p>so instead of stopping spam, they managed to kill of smtp.
congratulations.</p>
<p>everyone now uses skype and facebook (which are real-time and do
have friends-lists) lolol. you have succeeded in bringing
microsoft and facebook users to spy on. well done.<br>
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<p>if smtp is 'getting less' that is only because it has no users
left. people only start it up to read ripe mailinglists (lol) or
sign up for habbo hotel. FACT. lol.</p>
<p>none of our customers has ever sent UCE from our networks...
because... ever since 2004... we have simply blocked port 25...
smtp only causes -shit- and it -delivers shit- (abusemail and
'legal' threats about shit that is not our problem). we sure as
hell have some customers that cause 'shit' but they usually do it
in somewhat more profitable markets than sending 'spam' and most
definately can buy a tv station or 2 to do their advertisements
on. tyvm spamhaus. lol.</p>
<p>where this 'mytical' spammer that can pay our 1000-1500 euros per
month per server would come from, i don't know, i certainly have
never met any... i tried to invoice one 60k once and he backed off
already. poor spammers. they're like child porn people. can't pay
for anything, so not an urgent issue at all.</p>
<p>our customers frequently have the entire fucking cia rolling over
their doorstep and if it's not them its the god damn copyright
mafia. slightly different budgetarial picture there. shit that
-is- worth the trouble.<br>
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<p>now, please take your shitty nagging about 'abuse' of your crappy
silly old smtp protocol, which doesn't even -originate- from our
networks in the first fucking place, and stick it where the sun
doesn't shine... as for malware... windows is the malware there...
it facilitates all the programs residing on top of the same old
1990s badly implemented os/2 ripoff crap. so basically call
mickeysoft and ask them to fix the bugs they all exploit, or call
the european commission and impose trade bans against microsoft.
simple enough.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30 ينا, 2017 م 12:13, HRH Prince
Sven Olaf von CyberBunker wrote:<br>
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<p>advertising the sale of : viagra, sex slaves, ak47s, porn of
any kind, human trafficing services, specific animals, cocain,
data obtained through espionage, encryption technology, vpns,
gay propaganda, military propaganda, etc is subject to
applicable local law (if any, and if there is none, it's
perfectly fine)... not 'spamhaus policies' as spamhaus is not
supposed to be 'the internet government'. even if they think
they should be.</p>
<p>if the uk wants to keep certain products from entering 'their'
territory (and in doing so limit the freedom of their own
stakeholders/tax payers) that is up to them others choose not to
work against their own stakeholders/tax payers that way. they
have a customs department to keep said products outside. can't
tell others not to produce or sell or advertise it. setting up
dirty front operations like 'spamhaus' to lure naive nerds into
the illusion that they would be 'fighting spam' is a very nasty
thing to do. geo-political wise and business wise.<br>
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<p>now... in thailand porn is illegal... so... let's disconnect
all porn sites because thailand wants us to, oh but wait,
thailand doesn't have a 'spamhaus' thinking they rule the entire
internet through means of blackmail and calling people
'spammers' or 'spam supporters'.</p>
<p>what also works, besides blackmailing with committing computer
sabotage against the sales department of suppliers of suppliers
of suppliers of the publisher of a website, are: assassins,
commandos, carpet bombing, agent orange. etc... all of which
should be deployed against spamhaus if you ask me. :P but a
nullroute would suffice. lol. after all bgp is an 'advisory' to
'voluntary peers' and 'we don't block anything' as they
themselves always say.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30 ينا, 2017 ص 11:29, Esa Laitinen
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:19 PM HRH Prince
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<p class="gmail_msg">also it's quite vague that when
some mossadis rent servers and run an espionage botnet
on it (which we happily intercept ourselves ofcourse)
- spamhaus somehow magically never lists -that-.. just</p>
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<div>Looking at the amusing rant of Sven Olaf, it seems that
the listing works!</div>
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<div>Keep up the good work, spamhaus et al!</div>
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<div>esa </div>
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