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<p>customer wants to send packets from ip A to ip b... did they
arrive? -> yes. we did our job. no -> we did not do our job.
i can't quite see why we would even need to know what 'smtp' is.
nor any of the other obscure shit protocols out there.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30 ينا, 2017 م 12:30, HRH Prince
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<p>content. is NEVER. network-related-abuse.</p>
<p>'making more use of a mail protocol that in every other way is
used as intended' is also not 'network-related-abuse' in fact
it's not abuse at all. it's like tv advertisements.</p>
<p>'malware and virusses' all simply exploit the same old services
'provided' by crappy windows malware, which should get some
import restrictions, and the problem is solved ay. it's windows
itself that is the malware there... <br>
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<p>'phishing'... so you're saying your bank login procedure sucks
balls and/or you think 16 numbers on the front and 3 top secret
ones on the back of a plastic card people show in every
restaurant they go to are 'security' - go fix your own crap and
stop bothering us, we forward -packets-. we don't have time to
hunt ghosts for your broken financial services.<br>
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<p>'announcing the whole god damn internet split up into /24s'.. -
yes .. that's 'abuse'. lol.</p>
<p>and either way... if someone doesn't like what someone else is
doing they can take them to the -appropriate- courts (of the
other party) and try to get them to stop... blackmailing the
sales department of the transit carriers of their supplier of
their supplier of their supplier, will only make them change
isps, cause financial loss (or gains: setup fees), etc.</p>
<p>so far all spamhaus has ever established is:</p>
<p>- a whole lot of unroutable/unsellable/unusable ipv4 'burned'
ranges.</p>
<p>- smtp is no longer peer to peer (their bashing on open relays)</p>
<p>- smtp is no longer real time (graylisting)</p>
<p>- smtp is no longer reliable (with over 20 million ip addresses
listed despite there only being 300k mailservers in the world,
no wonder!)</p>
<p>so instead of stopping spam, they managed to kill of smtp.
congratulations.</p>
<p>everyone now uses skype and facebook (which are real-time and
do have friends-lists) lolol. you have succeeded in bringing
microsoft and facebook users to spy on. well done.<br>
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<p>if smtp is 'getting less' that is only because it has no users
left. people only start it up to read ripe mailinglists (lol) or
sign up for habbo hotel. FACT. lol.</p>
<p>none of our customers has ever sent UCE from our networks...
because... ever since 2004... we have simply blocked port 25...
smtp only causes -shit- and it -delivers shit- (abusemail and
'legal' threats about shit that is not our problem). we sure as
hell have some customers that cause 'shit' but they usually do
it in somewhat more profitable markets than sending 'spam' and
most definately can buy a tv station or 2 to do their
advertisements on. tyvm spamhaus. lol.</p>
<p>where this 'mytical' spammer that can pay our 1000-1500 euros
per month per server would come from, i don't know, i certainly
have never met any... i tried to invoice one 60k once and he
backed off already. poor spammers. they're like child porn
people. can't pay for anything, so not an urgent issue at all.</p>
<p>our customers frequently have the entire fucking cia rolling
over their doorstep and if it's not them its the god damn
copyright mafia. slightly different budgetarial picture there.
shit that -is- worth the trouble.<br>
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<p>now, please take your shitty nagging about 'abuse' of your
crappy silly old smtp protocol, which doesn't even -originate-
from our networks in the first fucking place, and stick it where
the sun doesn't shine... as for malware... windows is the
malware there... it facilitates all the programs residing on top
of the same old 1990s badly implemented os/2 ripoff crap. so
basically call mickeysoft and ask them to fix the bugs they all
exploit, or call the european commission and impose trade bans
against microsoft. simple enough.<br>
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<p>advertising the sale of : viagra, sex slaves, ak47s, porn of
any kind, human trafficing services, specific animals, cocain,
data obtained through espionage, encryption technology, vpns,
gay propaganda, military propaganda, etc is subject to
applicable local law (if any, and if there is none, it's
perfectly fine)... not 'spamhaus policies' as spamhaus is not
supposed to be 'the internet government'. even if they think
they should be.</p>
<p>if the uk wants to keep certain products from entering
'their' territory (and in doing so limit the freedom of their
own stakeholders/tax payers) that is up to them others choose
not to work against their own stakeholders/tax payers that
way. they have a customs department to keep said products
outside. can't tell others not to produce or sell or advertise
it. setting up dirty front operations like 'spamhaus' to lure
naive nerds into the illusion that they would be 'fighting
spam' is a very nasty thing to do. geo-political wise and
business wise.<br>
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<p>now... in thailand porn is illegal... so... let's disconnect
all porn sites because thailand wants us to, oh but wait,
thailand doesn't have a 'spamhaus' thinking they rule the
entire internet through means of blackmail and calling people
'spammers' or 'spam supporters'.</p>
<p>what also works, besides blackmailing with committing
computer sabotage against the sales department of suppliers of
suppliers of suppliers of the publisher of a website, are:
assassins, commandos, carpet bombing, agent orange. etc... all
of which should be deployed against spamhaus if you ask me. :P
but a nullroute would suffice. lol. after all bgp is an
'advisory' to 'voluntary peers' and 'we don't block anything'
as they themselves always say.<br>
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<p class="gmail_msg">also it's quite vague that when
some mossadis rent servers and run an espionage
botnet on it (which we happily intercept ourselves
ofcourse) - spamhaus somehow magically never lists
-that-.. just</p>
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<div>Looking at the amusing rant of Sven Olaf, it seems
that the listing works!</div>
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<div>Keep up the good work, spamhaus et al!</div>
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