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<DIV>I’m repeating my message because co-chair omitted Sam Cox (tech@ctu.pw) who
requested information to the group. You guys have grouped my information
complicating the understanding and joined the messages as if one were. Are
different matters in the message sent to the group: Vol 58, Issue 1.</DIV>
<DIV>Obviously I’m not surprised at such behavior. There have been worse and is
in line with the character of you. You guys would be less dishonest cancelling
my registry in aa-wg.</DIV>
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<DIV>About your behavior: in the last weeks were treated only "private" matters,
"off list". No voice was raised to complain in favor of the noble "real" purpose
of the Group. Congratulations, you are again confirming my thesis of the fox in
the henhouse.</DIV>
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<DIV>I would like to propose to the RIPE the formation of a group to discuss the
abuse in the use of Internet related to sending messages. Abuse should be
reported with evidence. These evidence should include the measures taken against
abuse and the measures implemented by companies and/or persons involved. With
these elements the group would discuss necessary measures.</DIV>
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<DIV>The current group does not allow companies that do not honor the rules
established for the practice of sending messages are reported. The 160 billion
spam a day explain such behavior but not justify.</DIV>
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<DIV style="TEXT-DECORATION: ; FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ; DISPLAY: inline">1-
Webexxpurts/Interconnects/FiberGrid/</DIV>TurboVPS (Sam Cox)</DIV>
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<DIV>Sam Cox,</DIV>
<DIV>Deepening your search:</DIV><PRE style="WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: ; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><FONT face=Calibri>aut-num: AS57972
as-name: Jingyun</FONT></PRE><PRE style="WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: ; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><FONT face=Calibri> </FONT></PRE><PRE style="WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: ; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><FONT face=Calibri>jingyun.com IP 72.34.51.46, it is owned by LIAN ZHIJIE of Organization GIGATON IDC INC with 171 domains</FONT></PRE><PRE style="WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: ; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><FONT face=Calibri> </FONT></PRE><PRE style="WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: ; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><FONT face=Calibri>Address Gigaton: Dongyng, China. Contact by </FONT><A style='href: "mailto:whois@gidc.com"'><FONT face=Calibri>whois@gidc.com</FONT></A></PRE><PRE style="WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: ; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><FONT face=Calibri>These websites with counterfeit products have as aim to steal credit card data; and Lian is one of the 40 thieves of Alibaba Group.</FONT></PRE><PRE style="WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: ; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><FONT face=Calibri> </FONT></PRE>
<DIV>2- The Reincarnation of a Bulletproof Hoster (Host Sailor, Ltd.) (Ronald F.
Guilmette)<BR><FONT face=Calibri>Ronald,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>your specific dealings with Host Sailor or other ISP are, in the James
Gannon, Brian Nisbet, Sander Steffann and Michele Neylon opinion, not relevant
to this group... </DIV>
<DIV>Off list?<BR></DIV><PRE style="WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: ; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><FONT face=Calibri>Marilson</FONT></PRE><PRE style="WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: ; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </PRE>
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1<BR>Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 14:24:43 -0300<BR>From: "Marilson"
<marilson.mapa@gmail.com><BR>To: <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net><BR>Cc:
"Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg@tristatelogic.com><BR>Subject: Re:
[anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1<BR>Message-ID:
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color=#ff0000 size=5>Will someone explain this mess?:</FONT><BR><FONT
color=#ff0000>Sam,<BR>Deepening your search:<BR>aut-num:
AS57972<BR>as-name: Jingyun
jingyun.com IP 72.34.51.46 ? it is owned by LIAN ZHIJIE of Organization GIGATON
IDC INC with 171 domains Address Gigaton: Dongyng, China ? contact by
whois@gidc.com These websites with counterfeit products have as aim to steal
credit card data; and Lian is one of the 40 thieves of Alibaba Group.
</FONT><FONT color=#9b00d3>Ronald,your specific dealings with Host Sailor or
other ISP are, in the James Gannon, Brian Nisbet, Sander Steffann and Michele
Neylon opinion, not relevant to this group... off
list?</FONT><BR><BR>Marilson</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><BR>From: anti-abuse-wg-request@ripe.net <BR>Sent: Thursday, August 04,
2016 7:00 AM<BR>To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <BR>Subject: anti-abuse-wg Digest,
Vol 58, Issue 1<BR><BR>Send anti-abuse-wg mailing list submissions
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of a Bulletproof Hoster (Host Sailor, Ltd.)<BR>
(Ronald F. Guilmette)<BR> 2.
Webexxpurts/Interconnects/FiberGrid/</DIV>TurboVPS (Sam Cox)<BR>
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1<BR>Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 13:42:53 -0700<BR>From: "Ronald F. Guilmette"
<rfg@tristatelogic.com><BR>To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net<BR>Subject:
[anti-abuse-wg] The Reincarnation of a Bulletproof Hoster<BR>(Host Sailor,
Ltd.)<BR>Message-ID:
<87114.1470256973@server1.tristatelogic.com><BR><BR><BR>I wouldn't want
any of you to miss this, least of all Khalid Hemida... umm...<BR>I mean "Khalid
Cook"... by which I mean our own "Alexander Freeman",
of<BR>course:<BR><BR>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/08/the-reincarnation-of-a-bulletproof-hoster/<BR><BR>So
what happens now Khalid? Are you going to stiff your customers and<BR>your
suppliers again when you shut down this time, you know, like you did<BR>last
time, when you were operating as
"Santrex"?<BR><BR><BR>Regards,<BR>rfg<BR><BR><BR>P.S. For those of you who
are curious, AS60117 (Host Sailor, Ltd.) has<BR>only two connections to the
internet, i.e. AS43350 - NForce Entertainment<BR>B.V. (NL) and AS9009 - M247
Ltd. (UK).<BR><BR>It probably wouldn't hurt anything if individuals on this list
who have<BR>an opinion on all this trensmitted that opinion to these two
companies.<BR>They may perhaps be unaware of the broad range of criminal
activities<BR>being facilitated by their customer, AS60117, Host Sailor,
Ltd.<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date:
Thu, 04 Aug 2016 01:33:36 +0200<BR>From: Sam Cox <tech@ctu.pw><BR>To:
anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net<BR>Subject: [anti-abuse-wg]
Webexxpurts/Interconnects/FiberGrid/TurboVPS<BR>Message-ID:
<E1bV5fM-0004LM-Sv@www-apps-1.ripe.net><BR>Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>I've been looking into these companies, who seem to
specialise in hosting counterfeit goods websites such as
these:<BR><BR>http://fcansw.org.au <BR>http://toutaubagnecontrelalgv.fr
<BR><BR>The ASNs involved seem to be these, but there may be
further<BR>http://bgp.he.net/AS57858#_whois<BR>http://bgp.he.net/AS57972#_whois<BR>http://bgp.he.net/AS60485#_whois<BR><BR>Further
examples of the types of hosted
sites<BR>http://www.malwareurl.com/ns_listing.php?as=AS57858<BR>http://www.malwareurl.com/ns_listing.php?as=AS57972<BR>http://www.malwareurl.com/ns_listing.php?as=AS60485<BR><BR>Appears
to be run by Mr. Arun Kumar / Deepak Mehta, likely out of
Estonia<BR>http://www.hostjury.com/reviews/turbovps<BR><BR>Anyone have any
further information about these companies?<BR><BR><BR>Sent via RIPE Forum --
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