<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" target="_blank">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>></span> wrote:<div> <div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">
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Usually however, there is a finite and small number of individuals<br>
behind this sort of thing, so that requiring contact, at some mutually<br>
convenient time, via telephone can most likely flush out the fraud<br>
most efficiently. If it is always the exact same voice on the other<br>
end of the line... even when one is speaking to a number of allegedly<br>
separate and independent companies, then, to paraphrase William<br>
Shakespeare, it should be altogether apparent that something is<br>
rotten in Romania.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>I have done the complete paperwork and RIPE interfacing for several of our customers who we are sponsoring PI space and AS numbers for. Matter of fact, this is the default mode of operation for us. This is _precisely_ what tech-c is for and quite common. The same applies to any customer wanting to become a LIR themselves and buying consultation from us.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Assuming a phone-in system was introduced and ignoring the obvious issues with recognizing voices that any hostmaster may or may not have heard at some time before, I would introduce myself as tech-c, tell the hostmaster that I would hand over to admin-c who is not very deep into understanding the matter at hand, and they would basically confirm everything I said.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Exactly the same process and outward appearance for valid and fraudulent requests.</div><div style><br></div><div style><br></div><div style>Even though I may disagree with your proposed solution, talking about specific concerns and/or suggestions as per above is vastly preferable over what amounts to grandstanding and refusing to fill out a simple form, and quite vocally so.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>This is especially puzzling since you already did the detective work and provided apparently useful information. It's a pity to get side-tracked, really.</div><div style><br></div><div style>
<br></div><div style>I suggest focusing on actual WG discourse on this list.</div><div style><br></div><div style><br></div><div style>Thank you for said detective work,</div><div style>Richard</div></div></div></div></div>