On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Gert Doering <<a href="mailto:gert@space.net">gert@space.net</a>> wrote: <div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="im"> </div>*My* requirements are already met. *If* the legal authorities in a given country convict the owners of a LIR, the RIPE NCC will take the resources away. This is good enough for me, and this is how *law* works in the EU. You seem to require something else.</blockquote></div> This ignores, for example, that there are several jurisdictions where for various reasons a conviction is hard or impossible for reasons such as - All the illegal actions (whatever they are) are committed against citizens of other countries Inadequate laws in the country where the criminal is based Lack of mutual legal assistance etc treaties with a country where law enforcement is interested + has victims seeking redress Possible bribery of local police and judiciary by the criminals .. etc .. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (<a href="mailto:ops.lists@gmail.com">ops.lists@gmail.com</a>)