<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="NL" link="blue" vlink="purple"> <div class="WordSection1"> Yes, I noticed that one too. It’s followed by ‘…but business rules will require it to be included in (…) RIPE, PI and AS assignments’.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> A few starting remarks to fire up the discussion:<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>The PA ranges are not included in this range; I heavily suspect however that in the PA allocations the problem with incorrect/unreachable abuse details is by far the largest (think shady LIRs subdelegating IP space. A very common business model). This policy should make an effort to try to touch the PA IP space too.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>A reference to, or a summary of the document containing the ‘business rules’ would help clarify the exact requirements. <o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>As mentioned before, what in case of non-compliance? The policy should state, or reference to, that too. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Pepijn<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> Van: anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net [mailto:anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net] Namens Aftab Siddiqui Verzonden: donderdag 24 november 2011 7:59 Aan: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Onderwerp: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2011-06 New Policy Proposal (Abuse Contact Management in the RIPE NCC Database)<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> It states "The syntax will make this an optional attribute". We are dealing with inconsistent records even making it mandatory in the APNIC region. How would it help? or I didn't understand properly, can anyone elaborate?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Emilio Madaio <<a href="mailto:emadaio@ripe.net">emadaio@ripe.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p> Dear Colleagues, A new RIPE Policy Proposal has been made and is now available for discussion. You can find the full proposal at: <a href="http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-06" target="_blank">http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-06</a> We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to <<a href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</a>> before 21 December 2011. Regards Emilio Madaio Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC <o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </div> <table bgcolor=white style="color:black"><tr><td> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Disclaimer Dit e-mailbericht kan vertrouwelijke informatie bevatten of informatie die is beschermd door een beroepsgeheim. Indien dit bericht niet voor u is bestemd, wijzen wij u erop dat elke vorm van verspreiding, vermenigvuldiging of ander gebruik ervan niet is toegestaan. Indien dit bericht blijkbaar bij vergissing bij u terecht is gekomen, verzoeken wij u ons daarvan direct op de hoogte te stellen via tel.nr 070 315 3500 of e-mail mailto:mail@opta.nl en het bericht te vernietigen. Dit e-mailbericht is uitsluitend gecontroleerd op virussen. OPTA aanvaardt geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor de feitelijke inhoud en juistheid van dit bericht en er kunnen geen rechten aan worden ontleend. This e-mail message may contain confidential information or information protected by professional privilege. If it is not intended for you, you should be aware that any distribution, copying or other form of use of this message is not permitted. If it has apparently reached you by mistake, we urge you to notify us by phone +31 70 315 3500 or e-mail mailto:mail@opta.nl and destroy the message immediately. This e-mail message has only been checked for viruses. The accuracy, relevance, timeliness or completeness of the information provided cannot be guaranteed. OPTA expressly disclaims any responsibility in relation to the information in this e-mail message. No rights can be derived from this message.</td></tr></table></body> </html>