<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto">Dear RIPE List Serv members,</div> <div style="RIGHT: auto"> </div> <div style="RIGHT: auto">Good day. My name is Ravi, I've been a dormant ListServ member for the last few months. would any of the members here help me know how to report a Proxy server or VPN being used to send Spam-Email from anonymous IPs<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>. </div> <div style="RIGHT: auto"> </div> <div style="RIGHT: auto">Thank you for your time.</div> <div style="RIGHT: auto"> </div> <div style="RIGHT: auto">Regards, </div> <div style="RIGHT: auto">Ravi</div> <div style="RIGHT: auto"> </div> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=hr contentEditable=false readonly="true"></DIV>From: "anti-abuse-wg-request@ripe.net" <anti-abuse-wg-request@ripe.net> To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 7:00 AM Subject: anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3 Send anti-abuse-wg mailing list submissions to <A href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" ymailto="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <A href="https://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg" target=_blank>https://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg</A> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <A href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg-request@ripe.net" ymailto="mailto:anti-abuse-wg-request@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg-request@ripe.net</A> You can reach the person managing the list at <A style="RIGHT: auto" href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg-owner@ripe.net" ymailto="mailto:anti-abuse-wg-owner@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg-owner@ripe.net</A> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of anti-abuse-wg digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RIPE Abuse (Chris) 2. Re: RIPE Abuse (Michele Neylon :: Blacknight) 3. Re: RIPE Abuse (Chris) 4. Re: RIPE Abuse (Michele Neylon :: Blacknight) 5. Re: RIPE Abuse (Florian Weimer) 6. Re: RIPE Abuse (Brian Nisbet) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:18:53 -0400 From: Chris <<A href="mailto:caldcv@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:caldcv@gmail.com">caldcv@gmail.com</A>> Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Abuse To: <A href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" ymailto="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A> Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:CAPF5ageYgofWUKLmzkswhAoceN4b2pJsfpgx85fzfO9en39vNg@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:CAPF5ageYgofWUKLmzkswhAoceN4b2pJsfpgx85fzfO9en39vNg@mail.gmail.com">CAPF5ageYgofWUKLmzkswhAoceN4b2pJsfpgx85fzfO9en39vNg@mail.gmail.com</A>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Vesna sent me a request to join this group and with your meeting coming up, I would like to put some last minute issues in: XSServer, a German virtual private server / dedicated server hosting provider, is starting to be the new king when it comes to ignored abuse complaints. A lot of their IP ranges are being used for spam, including email and the new comment spam on websites / forums (mainly Wordpress). The simple solution taken by webmasters and system administrators are to create a list of offending IPs to have for comparison purposes, check a potential IP against that and use that IP to block the spam from going through. That doesn't really work in the long term. Examples of offending IPs are: 109.230.216.225 109.230.220.34 109.230.217.166 109.230.220.95 I could find more but I just searched 109.230 in my email client and found these. I have noticed also that a lot of RIPE IPs also have invalid contact information or no abuse / admin information whatsoever on them which I believe is against your rules / guidelines. Thank you and thank you for Vesna for recommending this mailing list for me. I just imagine a day we rely on blacklists and rely more on providers fixing the problems themselves, rather than having any incompetent government intervene to cause more problems to "fix the problem" -- --C "The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them." - Sir William Clayton ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:34:52 +0000 From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <<A href="mailto:michele@blacknight.ie" ymailto="mailto:michele@blacknight.ie">michele@blacknight.ie</A>> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Abuse To: Chris <<A href="mailto:caldcv@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:caldcv@gmail.com">caldcv@gmail.com</A>> Cc: "<<A href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" ymailto="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A>>" <<A href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" ymailto="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A>> Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:8C06FA59-B1C6-420A-8E5C-11F59066538D@blacknight.ie" ymailto="mailto:8C06FA59-B1C6-420A-8E5C-11F59066538D@blacknight.ie">8C06FA59-B1C6-420A-8E5C-11F59066538D@blacknight.ie</A>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On 30 Oct 2011, at 18:18, Chris wrote: > > > I have noticed also that a lot of RIPE IPs also have invalid contact > information or no abuse / admin information whatsoever on them which I > believe is against your rules / guidelines. I'm not an expert on RIPE policy / rules, but the invalid contact info would probably be a breach and you can report it to RIPE. The lack of an abuse contact wouldn't be a breach of any rules that I'm aware of Regards Michele Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection ICANN Accredited Registrar http://www.blacknight.com/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.mobi/ http://mneylon.tel Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 US: 213-233-1612 UK: 0844 484 9361 Locall: 1850 929 929 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:39:30 -0400 From: Chris <<A href="mailto:caldcv@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:caldcv@gmail.com">caldcv@gmail.com</A>> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Abuse To: <A href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" ymailto="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A> Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:CAPF5agcgvrayj41-kO6B5nGeNzjS59VG29YMV5ARN26z5Kc9fQ@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:CAPF5agcgvrayj41-kO6B5nGeNzjS59VG29YMV5ARN26z5Kc9fQ@mail.gmail.com">CAPF5agcgvrayj41-kO6B5nGeNzjS59VG29YMV5ARN26z5Kc9fQ@mail.gmail.com</A>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Whats the proper way to report to RIPE for invalid contact info? ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:52:00 +0000 From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <<A href="mailto:michele@blacknight.ie" ymailto="mailto:michele@blacknight.ie">michele@blacknight.ie</A>> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Abuse To: Chris <<A href="mailto:caldcv@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:caldcv@gmail.com">caldcv@gmail.com</A>> Cc: "<A href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" ymailto="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A>" <<A href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" ymailto="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A>> Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:F0F29C9D-0077-435E-868F-1CE25A4B3024@blacknight.com" ymailto="mailto:F0F29C9D-0077-435E-868F-1CE25A4B3024@blacknight.com">F0F29C9D-0077-435E-868F-1CE25A4B3024@blacknight.com</A>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'd try the contact page on the ripe site Mr. Michele Neylon Blacknight http://Blacknight.tel Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity On 30 Oct 2011, at 18:40, "Chris" <<A href="mailto:caldcv@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:caldcv@gmail.com">caldcv@gmail.com</A>> wrote: > Whats the proper way to report to RIPE for invalid contact info? > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:28:41 +0000 From: Florian Weimer <<A href="mailto:fweimer@bfk.de" ymailto="mailto:fweimer@bfk.de">fweimer@bfk.de</A>> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Abuse To: Chris <<A href="mailto:caldcv@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:caldcv@gmail.com">caldcv@gmail.com</A>> Cc: <A href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" ymailto="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A> Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:824nypmuo6.fsf@mid.bfk.de" ymailto="mailto:824nypmuo6.fsf@mid.bfk.de">824nypmuo6.fsf@mid.bfk.de</A>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 * Chris: > XSServer, a German virtual private server / dedicated server hosting > provider, is starting to be the new king when it comes to ignored > abuse complaints. Have you brought this to the attention of the folks at <A href="http://optimate-server.de/" target=_blank>optimate-server.de</A>? (I'm not saying that it would help, I'm just trying to get a more complete picture.) -- Florian Weimer <<A href="mailto:fweimer@bfk.de" ymailto="mailto:fweimer@bfk.de">fweimer@bfk.de</A>> BFK edv-consulting GmbH http://www.bfk.de/ Kriegsstra?e 100 tel: +49-721-96201-1 D-76133 Karlsruhe fax: +49-721-96201-99 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:17:51 +0000 From: Brian Nisbet <<A href="mailto:brian.nisbet@heanet.ie" ymailto="mailto:brian.nisbet@heanet.ie">brian.nisbet@heanet.ie</A>> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Abuse To: <A href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" ymailto="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A> Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:4EAE67BF.7030205@heanet.ie" ymailto="mailto:4EAE67BF.7030205@heanet.ie">4EAE67BF.7030205@heanet.ie</A>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Chris, Chris wrote, On 30/10/2011 18:18: > > I have noticed also that a lot of RIPE IPs also have invalid contact > information or no abuse / admin information whatsoever on them which I > believe is against your rules / guidelines. > > Thank you and thank you for Vesna for recommending this mailing list > for me. I just imagine a day we rely on blacklists and rely more on > providers fixing the problems themselves, rather than having any > incompetent government intervene to cause more problems to "fix the > problem" You're not the only person to have noticed and raised this. There is currently a Task Force examining abuse contact information (due to report on current progress on Tuesday afternoon) and the NCC will be reporting on their new abuse contact measures during the session as well. Hopefully you'll be able to join us (either physically or via the Internet) on Tuesday and hopefully some, if not all, of your questions will be answered. Thanks, Brian. End of anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3 ******************************************* </DIV></DIV></div></body></html>