<div>Hello Tobias,</div>
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<div>yes, to my surprise as well the proposal didn't reach the consenses at APNIC. But in my personal experience most of the abuse reports we send are undelivered due to bad/incorrect address. The reason for policy or web reporting is there, lets see if majority acknowledges it or not. </div>
<div><br clear="all">Regards,<br><br>Aftab A. Siddiqui<br><br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/29 Tobias Knecht <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tk@abusix.com">tk@abusix.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi,<br>
<div class="im"><br>>>> There's no webform for this, no, but if you email <a href="mailto:ncc@ripe.net">ncc@ripe.net</a><br>>>> and/or <a href="mailto:abuse@ripe.net">abuse@ripe.net</a>, this should get things to the right<br>
>>> person and it can go from there.<br>>><br>>> Given the number of cases I've reported to RIPE, and the apparent<br>>> inaction, I'm not convinced that either of those would be a viable<br>
>> communications channel. Perhaps we do need a webform. No doubt<br>>> the RIPE NCC will protest that since there isn't a policy that tells<br>>> them to actually do anything about such cases, there's no point us<br>
>> having a webform anyway.<br>><br>> Hummm... OK. I didn't realize things were that bad.<br><br></div>It is! ;-)<br>
<div class="im"><br>> So, ah, maybe the Right Place To Start would be for somebody (perhaps<br>> even this working group?) to propose at least some sort of a policy<br>> (e.g. on hijacked ASNs and/or address blocks) for RIPE's consideration (?)<br>
><br>> I do agree that in the absence of any policy to even investigate, a web<br>> form for submissions isn't going to help a lot.<br><br></div>I have done a policy proposal for APNIC which was discussed in the last<br>
meeting, but didn't find consensus. See more about this here:<br><a href="http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-084" target="_blank">http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-084</a><br><br>I think we should change that a bit and say: "RIPE is responsible to<br>
keep up accuracy for the data held in the whois database!" The means<br>that RIPE has to find ways to do so.<br><br>The above mentioned proposal by the way is in a similar way in process<br>at ARIN.<br><br>If this working group thinks the policy proposal would be nice for RIPE,<br>
let me know and I will make the needed changes.<br><br>Thanks,<br><font color="#888888"><br>Tobias<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br></font></blockquote></div><br>