<html> <head> <style></style> </head> <body class='hmmessage'> Thanks, Emile, and to all the other persons in the mailing list who replied. I'll check out REX! > From: emile.aben@ripe.net > To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Antispam measures > Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:48:10 +0200 > > Triggered by this email thread I decided to take a closer look at data > for Ukrtelecom using the Resource Explainer tool we presented at RIPE59. > Here are my findings: > http://labs.ripe.net/node/85 > > Hope people find it useful. > > best regards, > Emile Aben > RIPE NCC Research Engineer > > > Chimel Chimel wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am not sure this mailing list is still active, the latest archived > > mail dates back from over a year ago. > > I have 3 questions for this mailing list: > > > > 1) Does RIPE or other registrars impose antispam fighting measures or a > > code of conduct to the ISPs or telcos it allocates IP ranges to? > > For instance, do these registrar customers specifically sign an > > agreement never to post spam themselves. Do they also sign an agreement > > to terminate IP sub-allocation or contract with their own customers who > > are using their IP addresses to post spam? > > > > 2) If there is such measures, how does RIPE enforce them? > > > > 3) What does RIPE intends to do about Ukrtelecom, who is alone > > responsible for hundreds of thousands of daily spam posts in discussion > > forums and BBSs? > > According to the people in stopforumspam.com, every single post > > emanating from ukrtelecom is spam, there is not a single genuine user > > from that telco. > > How can RIPE allocate hundreds of separate IP ranges to this single > > telco, especially if it is only a support for spam, not a telco at all. > > When querying the RIPE database for ukrtelecom, it returns 300 IP > > ranges, but that's only because the web site is limited to 300 answers. > > I'd like to see the whole list in order to ban it all from my forum, > > even if it means banning genuine users from Ukraine. > > And of course, when I say ukrtelecom is a spammer site, I really means > > it is a mafia site that makes millions of dollars every month in illegal > > activities, selling dangerous fake medicines such as viagra or tamiflu. > > In these times of IP addresses shortening, it would make a lot more IPs > > available if the registrars would cancel IP allocation from the > > customers who break the antispam rules. > > > > Thanks, > > Chimel. > > > > By the way, a BBS seems to be a more adequate way than a mailing list to > > handle this kind of discussion. Just my 2 cents. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Gratuit : Hotmail plus rapide avec Internet Explorer 8 ! Cliquez ici ! > > <http://www.microsoft.com/france/windows/products/winfamily/ie/ie8/msn/default.aspx> > <hr />Nouveau Windows 7 : Trouvez le PC qui vous convient. <a href='http://clk.atdmt.com/FRM/go/181574580/direct/01/' target='_new'>En savoir plus.</a></body> </html>