[anti-abuse-wg] Seeking Input on the Future of the Anti-Abuse Working Group

That's fine. The WG can make suggestions, RIPE NCC considers this, and 
if necessary asks the members, possibly explaining, or asking the WG to 
explain why the change makes sense. Most people are sensible.

I don't see where there is a problem.

Best
Serge

On 13.05.24 16:11, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
> Suresh
> 
> It might be helpful to discuss this with them. I’m sure there are 
> **some** things that they could do without putting it to the members, 
> but there’s a lot of things that would need member agreement in order to 
> change.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Michele
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> *From: *anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of 
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> *Date: *Monday, 13 May 2024 at 14:44
> *To: *Serge Droz <serge.droz at first.org>
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> *Subject: *Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Seeking Input on the Future of the 
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> RIPE NCC doesn’t really need member input or consensus to change a lot 
> of this. Certainly not in tightening or enforcing due diligence 
> procedures rather than charging 50 euro an ASN
> 
> —srs
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> Droz via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net>
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> *Subject:* Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Seeking Input on the Future of the 
> Anti-Abuse Working Group
> 
> Hi Michele
> 
> 
>> RIPE currently does not have the power to do a lot of things. The WG 
>> cannot magically change that.
> 
> 
> This is the old merry go round.
> 
> Maybe RIPE NCC needs to change certain things, or it will be changed for
> them. The WG could provide guidance and suggest possible avenues where
> RIPE needs/should change. RIPE can then still ignore that. Believe it or
> not: Organizations can change.
> 
> So if you say you don't want to discuss this, fine. But don't blame it
> RIPE not being able to change.
> 
> Best
> Serge
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