[anti-abuse-wg] Seeking Input on the Future of the Anti-Abuse Working Group

+1

Best
	Peter

Am 24.03.24 um 01:52 schrieb Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> My 2 cents:
> 
> I'm clearly for option 1.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlos
> 
> 
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2024, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> 
>> Hi chairs, all,
>>
>> I think this is a great working group.  Periods of silence are 
>> physiological; for example, they may arise after a thorough discussion 
>> about a proposed point which is eventually found to be unfeasible.  
>> The idea to force every abuse-c to actually receive email messages and 
>> act on them suits that example.
>>
>> If there are security topics that the current charter doesn't cover, 
>> re-chartering is certainly a good idea.  The chairs are great, 
>> especially Brian, and I see no reason to select new ones.  Closing the 
>> working group would be a matter of regret and I hope it's not going to 
>> happen.
>>
>>
>> Best
>> Ale
>>
>>
>> On Thu 21/Mar/2024 10:09:00 +0100 Markus de Brün wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Anti-Abuse Working Group Members,
>>>
>>>
>>> As Co-Chairs, we have been carefully monitoring the discussions on 
>>> the mailing list and are concerned about the current state of 
>>> stagnation and lack of progress.
>>>
>>> After consideration and discussion among the Co-Chairs, we believe it 
>>> is necessary to initiate a dialogue regarding the future direction of 
>>> our working group. Some action is needed to revitalise our efforts.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Co-Chairs have discussed a number of options, both between 
>>> ourselves and with the RIPE Chair Team. However, due to the lack of 
>>> general engagement, and the circular conversations on the list, we 
>>> see three viable options at this point::
>>>
>>>
>>>  1.
>>>
>>>     Re-charteringthe working group, possibly transitioning it into a 
>>> Security
>>>     Working Group to broaden our scope and address related concerns
>>>     comprehensively. (The current charter can be found here:
>>>     https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/anti-abuse/
>>>     <https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/anti-abuse/>)
>>>
>>>  2.
>>>
>>>     It is possible we are simply the wrong Co-Chairs at the wrong 
>>> time, so we
>>>     can step-downand allow the working group to select new Co-Chairs.
>>>
>>>  3.
>>>
>>>     Closing the working groupif consensus cannot be reached on a 
>>> viable path
>>>     forward.
>>>
>>>
>>> It may be that there are people in the Working Group who are eager to 
>>> propose new policies, or embark on a project to systematically 
>>> examine the abuse ecosystem, but over the last year or so, there has 
>>> been no evidence this is the case.
>>>
>>>
>>> However, we firmly believe that the best course of action is to 
>>> engage all members of the Anti-Abuse Working Group in an open and 
>>> transparent discussion about the challenges we face and the 
>>> opportunities for positive change. Your input and perspectives are 
>>> invaluable in shaping the future of our community.
>>>
>>>
>>> Therefore, we are inviting you to participate actively in this 
>>> crucial conversation. We encourage you to share your thoughts, 
>>> suggestions, and concerns regarding the current state of the working 
>>> group and your vision for its future direction.
>>>
>>>
>>> Your input will help inform our next steps and guide the evolution of 
>>> the Anti-Abuse Working Group. We encourage you to share your feedback 
>>> openly on the mailing list so that all members can participate in the 
>>> conversation. We hope to discuss the status at RIPE88.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for reading this far. We look forward to your active 
>>> participation in shaping the future of the Anti-Abuse Working Group.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Brian, Tobias, Markus
>>
>>
>>
>>
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