[anti-abuse-wg] UCEPROTECT DNSBL possibly abusive practice and RIPEStat Blacklist entries widget

Since you brought up m3aawg I will note that it does have a best current practice for block lists which specifically declares that asking for payment for removal is not acceptable

RIPE should consider only listing block lists that are managed according to accepted best practices

https://www.m3aawg.org/sites/default/files/m3aawg-blocklist-help-bp-2018-02.pdf

There are also blocklists that expect payment for delisting. M3AAWG strongly discourages the practice of blocklist operators charging delisting fees in any form; we acknowledge that under some exigent situations, listed entities may choose to pay such fees. For example, paying a delisting fee may be a viable option for senders who are able to quickly identify the underlying problem, solve it, and have no issue paying such fees. However, failure to identify and solve the problem sets the sender up for future listings and, thus, future delisting fees. Furthermore, a payment does not preclude future listings for repeated problems or different issues.

--srs
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From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 1:21:18 AM
To: "Ángel González Berdasco" <angel.gonzalez at incibe.es>
Cc: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net>
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] UCEPROTECT DNSBL possibly abusive practice and RIPEStat Blacklist entries widget

i think two things are being confused here; what the measurement folk
find useful and what the anti-spam folk find useful.  the ncc and ripe
stat is not supplying the latter.

it is the mail operators' choice of which anti-spam techniques to use,
and i do that with one hat.  but with a different hat i am interested in
longitudinal measurement of internet infrastructure, anti-spam services
being a small part of it.

i suspect that what you really want is (for example) maawg to measure
availibility and quality of *all* anti-spam services.  while worthwhile,
that is not the ripe stat's measurement mission.

randy

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