[anti-abuse-wg] UCEPROTECT DNSBL possibly abusive practice and RIPEStat Blacklist entries widget

On Tue 02/Mar/2021 12:12:33 +0100 Esa Laitinen wrote:
> 
> On 02.03.21 10:49, Vittorio Bertola via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
>> Il 02/03/2021 00:08 Kristijonas Lukas Bukauskas via anti-abuse-wg 
>> <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net> ha scritto: 
>>>
>>> UCEPROTECT blacklists the whole range of IP addresses, including the full IP 
>>> range of some autonomous systems:
>> I stress that the problem is not in blacklisting entire providers, something 
>> that may be justified if those providers are lenient in fighting abuse on 
>> their networks, but in blacklisting entire providers with very weak criteria 
>> (so weak that most big European hosters end up at least in the level 3 
>> blacklist) and then asking for money to remove them. This is actually 
>> prohibited by RFC 6471 (section 2.2.5) because indeed, especially when done 
>> at scale, it looks a lot like extortion.
> 
> They don't ask for money to be removed from the the list. The listing gets 
> automatically removed after 7 days of taking care of the issue, without money 
> changing hands. Please stop spreading lies.


Hm... perhaps they remove records after some time.  However, they ask money for 
whitelisting, which sorts out the same effect as delisting.

 From whitelisted.org website:
Registration is available for 1 Month (25 CHF), 6 Month (50 CHF), 12 Month (70 
CHF), 24 Month (90 CHF) .


Best
Ale
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