[anti-abuse-wg] RIPE AA-WG discussion

Hi,

(intro)
Tobias Knecht sent me an email (which this is a reply to) abusing his
position as co-chair in order to try to sell me services based on what I
said on a mailing list.

(mainly towards Tobias)
Replying to me based on a mailing list post in order to try to sell me
services is bad enough.
To do it as a co-chair and then to use the fact that you are co-chair as a
selling point is much worse.

I find this utterly appalling behaviour from a co-chair of a working group,
I didn't reach out to you, you weren't even in the thread at all.

also this:
> As a Co-Chair I didn't want to jump into the mix on the mailing list,
that's why I'm reaching out to you directly.

I mean that is sort of the point of co-chairs generally speaking but yeah
it is going to look bad if you are trying to sell something, because it is
bad.

(mainly towards chair team and aa-wg chairs)
A co-chair of a working group should absolutely be warned or removed if
they abuse their position to sell their services.

I also somehow doubt that this is the first time, I could be wrong, but idk
why this would be the first time.

I hate it when for example Cogent sends me emails trying to sell me
services despite me never having contacted them (outside of replying saying
I am not interested).
But this is more like if the Cogent sales people were co-chairs of the
db-wg.

Also with a subject like "RIPE AA-WG discussion" I initially thought it was
actually about something I said or whatever, in his role as co-chair, it
didn't appear like it was a sales email.

I have also CC'd the aa-wg and ripe list as this is too appalling to be
held private.

-Cynthia


On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 5:50 PM Tobias Knecht <tk at abusix.com> wrote:

> Hello Cynthia,
>
> my name is Tobias. I'm a Co-Chair of the Anti-Abuse Working Group and also
> Founder and CEO of Abusix.
>
>
> As a Co-Chair I didn't want to jump into the mix on the mailing list,
> that's why I'm reaching out to you directly.
>
> We at Abusix run Abuse Desk for dozens of Service Providers of any size
> and any type of product. From Cloud to DC-Services, Cable, and so on.
>
> Happy to jump on a call and answer the questions you have and tell you
> about how our clients handle those things.
>
> Feel free to reach out via email or just pick a time in my calendar:
> https://calendly.com/tobias-knecht/30min
>
> Thanks and stay safe.
>
> Tobias
>
> --
>
>
> Tobias Knecht
>
> Founder & CEO
>
>
>
> T.
>
> +49 170 455 98 45
>
> abusix.com
> <https://cloud.letsignit.com/collect/bc/5fc946660b5c6b0008d672f1?p=3QW9LKZRNsNLctpv2M4xw66qtjrDbFHkRfe_Jo_T8nIlQuwLC6zZ9OH0kt1uknMTCaPgfev0DqYl37D4m9Ee4vsbDzR0i3-_vR79jccowDesvdhqrvzXzi6k_yA1omSOmnzd-c_2CqBfYJjJFgV9BQOpBRSRjC8wMv-fT3nwGx3tkMlHQ6jWt4ciVIkA_II6>
>
> Book a meeting
> <https://cloud.letsignit.com/collect/bc/5fc946660b5c6b0008d672f1?p=3QW9LKZRNsNLctpv2M4xw66qtjrDbFHkRfe_Jo_T8nIlQuwLC6zZ9OH0kt1uknMT9SwLHL8nP_FvGHuL1dmuWvzSzogpcTfxgYqITma2NzHMq5pXRQAYjPHEkBYpwTr5FBNOY9SMkZqJWdDoUo-I_A==>
>
>
>
> [image: My Logo]
>
>
>
>
> <https://cloud.letsignit.com/collect/bc/5fc946660b5c6b0008d672f1?p=3QW9LKZRNsNLctpv2M4xw66qtjrDbFHkRfe_Jo_T8nIlQuwLC6zZ9OH0kt1uknMT9SwLHL8nP_FvGHuL1dmuWkBl_vB1ZA4WrZhHQQ6slR_5b_FnETHpRTKihQLpXLRkFBNOY9SMkZqJWdDoUo-I_A==>
>
>
> <https://cloud.letsignit.com/collect/bc/5fc946660b5c6b0008d672f1?p=3QW9LKZRNsNLctpv2M4xw66qtjrDbFHkRfe_Jo_T8nIlQuwLC6zZ9OH0kt1uknMT9SwLHL8nP_FvGHuL1dmuWuwTIYoZ5mdTWmhqltOyd8WxVKbCGLLoqGos1EesYhP7>
>
>
> <https://cloud.letsignit.com/collect/bc/5fc946660b5c6b0008d672f1?p=3QW9LKZRNsNLctpv2M4xw66qtjrDbFHkRfe_Jo_T8nIlQuwLC6zZ9OH0kt1uknMT9SwLHL8nP_FvGHuL1dmuWmVS4sTjl1cJ51NN-gNCB_rcu1jgPRgfsr52W-kkb52KhFdCjGAFnnZN_nkWEHAE7w==>
>
>
>
>
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY This email and any attachments are confidential and may
> also be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not
> the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not
> disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose, or store
> or copy the information in any medium.
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: </ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20210222/25655cab/attachment.html>