[anti-abuse-wg] [policy-announce] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

Which then allows you to mistakenly claim there is or isn't consensus.


Which itself is prone to abuse.



On 6/10/2020 2:28 am, Brian Nisbet wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm on leave from work this week and not checking this email a/c as 
> often as I normally would (or, hopefully, at all this week!), but I 
> wanted to pop in to clarify something.
>
> We do not vote on proposals in the RIPE community. We discuss them and 
> either consensus is reached or it is not. There is, therefore, no 
> calls for votes, nor counting of same.
>
> I would encourage everyone to read the material at 
> https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies in order to gain a better 
> understanding of the process.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
> Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG
>
> Brian Nisbet
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> *From:* anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of PP 
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> *Subject:* Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [policy-announce] Appeal against the 
> Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of 
> “abuse-mailbox”)
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> You don't know that it was "marginal" support, because no count was 
> ever conducted.
>
>
> The Chair never asked for a "vote", and then when people didn't "vote" 
> (because they had never been asked to), they concluded (wrongly) that 
> there was no support for the proposal.
>
>
>
>
> On 5/10/2020 8:51 pm, Alex de Joode wrote:
>> Jordi,
>>
>> The proposal received a lot of push back. Your statement "some clear 
>> support for the policy during the discussion phase", is missing the 
>> word "marginal" between some and clear.
>>
>> I believe the Anti-Abuse WG Co-Chairs made the right call. Please 
>> consider retracting your appeal.
>>
>>
>> ​--
>> IDGARA | Alex de Joode | alex at idgara.nl <mailto:alex at idgara.nl> | 
>> +31651108221
>>
>> On Mon, 05-10-2020 10h 23min, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 
>> <jordi.palet at consulintel.es> <mailto:jordi.palet at consulintel.es> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     This appeal (attached in PDF) follows the process outlined by
>>     ripe-710 (RIPE PDP).
>>
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Jordi
>>     @jordipalet
>>
>>
>>
>>
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