[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 Discussion Phase (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

El vie, 08-05-2020 a las 22:57 +0100, Nick Hilliard escribió:
> > I'm happy if you believe that my wording
> > is not good, and we agree on that goal, to find an alternative one.
> > Any suggestion?
> 
> Firstly, if you propose to collect stats about anything, you need to 
> think about what sort of stats should be collected.
> 
> Secondly, you need to make a credible argument about why the RIPE NCC 
> should be obliged to spend membership funds collecting these stats and 
> why the RIPE NCC is a more appropriate vehicle for collecting these 
> stats than other organisations which specialise in online security and 
> abuse issues, particularly those which already collect statistics about 
> online abuse.
> 
> Nick

Hello Nick

These are not statistics about online abuse. These are statistics about
the contact information registered by RIPE being valid.

RIPE contact database is like a phone book.

It doesn't matter for that if the number which was looked up was the
hairdresser's (a customer relationship) or the number of the upstairs
neighbour which is flooding your home (abuse).

It may be that the fire department has statistics of non-working
numbers on the phone book (since, incidentally, they are using the same
phone book as the rest of the people), but it is much more logical that
the entity tracking the phone book quality was be the one compiling the
phone book (even though it is the one which would need to provide the
proper number should be the actual customer).


Kind regards

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