[anti-abuse-wg] About "consensus" and "voting"...

Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote on 11/05/2020 13:20:
> I am not entirely sure the discussion has moved all that much in the 
> past decade beyond this exact point - how to pressure ripe to deal with 
> shady actors getting themselves LIR status or appropriating large legacy 
> netblocks belonging to defunct companies.

Fraudulent appropriation of network blocks is a direct violation of the 
SSA, and is already actionable.  From what I understand, the RIPE NCC 
already deals with abuse of this form on a regular basis.

Refusing to grant LIR status to "shady actors" is legally difficult.  So 
is revocation of resource holdership on the grounds that the number 
resources were used for specific purposes which may be illegal in some 
or all of the RIPE NCC service region.

Acting outside the terms of legal proportionality is also problematic. 
Many policy proposals have foundered on this issue.

Also, there are open questions as to whether deregistration of IP 
addressing resources will have a real impact on abuse management, or 
whether the abusers would just spin up another legal vehicle to conduct 
their abuse.

Overall, this is a fraught area.  This is at least part of the reason 
that it's been difficult to reach consensus on a good number of these 
proposals.

Nick