[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 Discussion Phase (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

El 29/4/20 14:23, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Gert Doering" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de gert at space.net> escribió:

    Hi,

    On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 01:44:42PM +0200, Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
    > >> Coming from the incident response side, I'm tiered of people constantly
    > >> telling me, that issues are not their problem
    > > 
    > > How would this proposal help with said problem?
    > 
    > - It will catch the cases where some miss configuration happened indeed

    This is already caught today.  The RIPE NCC *does* abuse-c mailbox
    validation today.

[Jordi] But is not working, it is just a technical validation.

    > - It will make it impossible for orgs to say "We never received a report"

    How so?  Yes, there is a mailbox.  But if someone doesn't care, why 
    would they not still claim "I have never seen a report"?

[Jordi] We need to know stats about those cases.

    > - It allows us to enumerate better who does good work and who doesn't.

    And how does *this proposal* have any influence on this?

[Jordi] I agree here with Gert. Personally, I will like to know who is not handling abuse cases, so I can filter its network. As "what is best for the community, at the time being", and the way I phrased it in the proposal I just want to have stats, not pointing to anyone.

    I'm usually more of an reporter than a responder, but I've seen both
    sides - and [as I've said before...] you don't get orgs that do not care
    to magically expend resources on abuse handling by introducing more
    mailbox verification procedures.

    Gert Doering
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