[anti-abuse-wg] working in new version of 2019-04 (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

Hi All

How about we just try this for a year and then take stock?

Best
Serge


On 16/01/2020 18:07, Andreas Worbs wrote:
> I'm completely with you.
> 
> For our US-AS i verify my contact once a year: open the mail, click the
> link, verify my data and that's it. You don't even need 5 minutes for it.
> 
> If you have an automation fpr your abuse mails? Ok, you have to adjust
> your configuration a little bit but you have to do this only once. Is it
> really a problem?
> 
> RIPE NCC will not deregister your ressources right now just because you
> missed the verification.
> 
> I would be happy if we have a mandatory abuse-c which is validated by
> the RIPE.
> 
> Rather go forward step-by-step than stop here for years. Stagnation
> means regression.
> 
> Have a good night,
> 
> Andi
> 
> Am 16.01.20 um 09:41 schrieb Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg:
>> Hi All
>>
>> I think we already spent way more executive time on this thread than it
>> would cost us to verify e-mail addresses.
>>
>> I agree e-mail does not solve all the problems. It's hard to
>> automatically process, .....
>>
>> But it is simple to use, and from my work as an incident handler it did
>> do me good in the past. I participate in fora that validate
>> abuse/emergency addresses. WHen I ask these people what their issues in
>> daily life are it's never we have to validate or contact e-mail.
>>
>>
>> And honestly: taking a step back and reading this entire thread, I'm not
>> surprised that the bad guys are winning. You know: They don't care about
>> the purty and beauty of a solution. They just do it and profit, and
>> probably have a fabulous time seeing us argue and go at each others
>> throats.
>>
>> I think we could do better.
>>
>> Best
>> Serge
> 

-- 
Dr. Serge Droz
Chair, Forum of Incident Response and Security Teams (FIRST)
Phone +41 76 542 44 93 | serge.droz at first.org | https://www.first.org

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