[anti-abuse-wg] [routing-wg] An arrest in Russia

Hi Nikolas,

where in the policies are annulments possible?

Elvis

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 06:30 Nikolas Pediaditis <npediaditi at ripe.net> wrote:

> Dear Sergey,
>
> In this case, the transfer was ‘reverted’, meaning that the registration
> details prior to the transfer were restored. We see this action as an
> annulment of the original transfer and not a second transfer requiring
> implementation of the 24-month rule.
>
> With regards to implementing policies and procedures, we apply them as
> equally and neutrally as possible, but we also consider it reasonable and
> sensible to take extraordinary circumstances into account. On this
> occasion, RIPE NCC Management reviewed a case in which new information had
> come to light and it decided to act as it saw necessary and appropriate.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Nikolas Pediaditis
> Registration Services and Policy Development Manager
> RIPE NCC
>
>
> > On 31 Dec 2019, at 21:13, Sergey Myasoedov via anti-abuse-wg <
> anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Marco,
> >
> >> Later, we received new information from both organisations about this
> transfer. It was then followed by an official request in which both parties
> asked us to revert the changes made to our registry and return the IP
> addresses back to their previous holders. After an internal review, we
> reverted the registration of the addresses.
> >
> > Can you give some more details on the fact that policy requirements for
> holding the resources for 24 months after the transfer was suspended?
> >
> >> While we cannot disclose more details publicly, we would like to
> emphasise that we took this action within our mandate to maintain an
> up-to-date and correct Internet number resource registry, and as a neutral
> and impartial organisation.
> >
> > The last sentence proves that there are rules and there are rules. How
> the NCC can be a neutral organisation while policy isn't applied to all
> members in an equal manner?
> >
> > Thank you and have a happy holidays.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kind regards,
> > Sergey Myasoedov
> >
> >> On 31 Dec 2019, at 09:28, Marco Schmidt <mschmidt at ripe.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear colleagues,
> >>
> >> We would like to provide some clarification on this case.
> >>
> >> Earlier this year, we transferred a large number of IP addresses from
> the autonomous nonprofit organisation "Russian Scientific-Research
> Institute for Public Networks” in the Russian Federation to the Reliable
> Communications s.r.o in the Czech Republic.
> >> This change was processed by the RIPE NCC in full compliance with RIPE
> Policies and the RIPE NCC’s published procedures.
> >>
> >> Later, we received new information from both organisations about this
> transfer. It was then followed by an official request in which both parties
> asked us to revert the changes made to our registry and return the IP
> addresses back to their previous holders. After an internal review, we
> reverted the registration of the addresses.
> >>
> >> While we cannot disclose more details publicly, we would like to
> emphasise that we took this action within our mandate to maintain an
> up-to-date and correct Internet number resource registry, and as a neutral
> and impartial organisation.
> >>
> >> Kind regards and Happy New Year,
> >>
> >> Marco Schmidt
> >> Registration Services and Policy Development Assistant Manager
> >> RIPE NCC
> >>
> >>
> >> On 29/12/2019 06:45, Randy Bush wrote:
> >>>> It would be nice if RIPE NCC could provide as part of its annual
> >>>> report a list of incidents of this nature so we have an idea of how
> >>>> wide-spread this is - or not.
> >>> as i try not to indulge in schadenfreude, i don't have much use for
> this
> >>> information.
> >>>
> >>> we spent some time in this space in rotterdam.  the presos were well
> >>> done, but not my cup of coffee.  i am sure there were others who found
> >>> it fascinating.  i guess that's what makes the world go 'round.
> >>>
> >>> randy
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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