[anti-abuse-wg] Fw: Re: @EXT: RE: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

On 17/04/2020 16:31, Brian Nisbet wrote:

Brian is correct.  "...it is up to the membership of the NCC to decide 
who they wish to see on that Board.".
Just like in any country (and as we have seen over the past number of 
years), the citizens get a leadership they deserve not what they want.
Unfortunately, so too it will be in RIPE.

-Hank

> Vittorio,
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> All of the candidates who have been nominated for the Exec Board at present have met the criteria set down by the NCC and its members. My point here is that it is not up to the AA-WG to interfere in that, rather it is up to the membership of the NCC to decide who they (we in my case as I do work for a member organisation, but I do not usually post here in that specific capacity) wish to see on that Board.
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> Changes to those criteria are similarly decided by NCC members.
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> So, where is the right place to discuss this? The RIPE NCC Members Discuss list, which is limited to members only, is certainly a forum:
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> https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/ripe-ncc-mailing-lists/members-discuss
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>> Il 17/04/2020 12:33 furio ercolessi <furio+as at spin.it> ha scritto:
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>> Good morning,
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>> as everybody is certainly aware, the antiabuse scenario has become rather complex,
> Apologies if I jump into this discussion - I do not work for a RIPE member, I lurk this list to stay up to date with general abuse trends.
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> But there is one thing that escapes me: if, as Ron asserts (and this needs to be proven), there is an ongoing attempt to put into the RIPE NCC Board one or more individuals that are connected with theft of IP space and other abuse, isn't this attempt a gigantic form of abuse in itself, with potential consequences that could go well beyond RIPE and its members and affect the European Internet community as a whole? Why should it not be in topic for the abuse list, and where is it in topic then?
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