[anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election

The we are not the internet police crowd for instance

And the amazing number of ripe luminiaries, wg chairs etc that just happened to be in the room for an AOB session during a previous wg with the intention of voting Richard Cox out of his co chair position.

There just doesn’t seem to be any actual interest in fighting abuse. And much more interest in coming up with interesting reasons as to why action must be taken by an undefined  someone else in most every abuse case that is brought up.

This wg is not meeting whatever role is defined in its charter I’m afraid

--srs
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From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:25:51 PM
To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net>
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election

Hello List

I've been, mostly passive, on this list for quite a while. I must say we
really excel in terms of abusing each other. And I agree with Ronald, we
seem to fail coming forward with even partial solutions to prevent
abuse. I am disappointed by the tone on this list. One can, and should
disagree on topics, but one should not loose the common goal, reduce
abuse in our case. I fear we are doing just that.

Maybe the striving for a perfect solution, that has no side effects is
not the right approach. Criminals don't mind side effects, and maybe
rather than avoiding them we should try to control and minimize them.

While I'm not the right person to determine what topics are appropriate
for the list, I don't see any harm in asking people to maybe consider
viable candidates for board positions. We can discuss the tone. This
group repeatedly pointed out the importance of a bottom up, democratic
governance structure for RIPE. I'd argue, that a good selection of
candidates for such a position is the basis for this.

I would hope for the abuse WG to become a little more pragmatic and
positive thinking when trying to come up with solutions to fight abuse.
"Divide and conquer" is a concept criminals thrive on too.

Having said that, I wish everyone good health and and a hopefully
enjoyable weekend.

Best
Serge

--
Dr. Serge Droz
Chair of the FIRST Board of Directors
https://www.first.org

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