[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

> On May 21, 2019, at 19:31, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
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> Hi Tarass,
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> El 21/5/19 16:18, "Taras Heichenko" <tasic at hostmaster.ua> escribió:
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>> On May 21, 2019, at 18:35, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
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>> El 21/5/19 15:32, "Gert Doering" <gert at space.net> escribió:
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>>   Hi,
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>>   the whole point of your policy is the underlying assumption that people
>>   are *not* acting in good faith, so why all of a sudden assume they are?
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>> Is in the other way around. If you're acting in good faith, you should not have a problem to have a validation. The time you invest in a couple of validations per year, will be *much less* than the time that you *now* invest in unusable abuse contacts.
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>    If you're acting in good faith you do not need the validation. So other people do not need to validate your abuse contact.
>    It just works. If you're acting in bad faith then additional validation will not change your behavior. You just check your
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> ---->>> Right, but those folks *then* are violating the policy.

They are _already_ acting in bad faith. Do you really think that it is reason for them to go to the good path?
Do you have any way to prove that they are violating policy when you look at the address outside of the abuse
mailbox owner, from RIPE NCC point of view?

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>    mailbox to reply to the validation. Nothing more. But the people who are acting in good faith will have additional headache to not
>    miss the validation to make all good.
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