[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

Hi Gert,
 
I'm fine if it is outsourced to comply with the policy, of course, but not to circumvent it.

I think any way to comply with policies is just fine if acting in good faith.

Regards,
Jordi

El 18/5/19 19:03, "Gert Doering" <gert at space.net> escribió:

    Hi,
    
    On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 10:38:46AM +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
    >     I have an idea.
    >     
    >     I will set up a service where everyone can have an e-mail address which
    >     will totally follow everything you propose as validation mechanism - like,
    >     click on tokes, report back in 10 minutes (even in the middle of the 
    >     night), etc. - LIRs that want to be spared this annoyance can just pay
    >     me 50 EUR/month, and I'll handle all these chores for them.
    >     
    >     So, this would totally fulfill your proposed policy, and not help in any
    >     bit with *abuse handling*.
    > 
    > That automated system will be against the policy. I've already
    > worded it out in such way that is not possible this type of
    > "work-around the policy", at least it was my original intent to
    > avoid it. If I've broken something across more than 20 versions
    > that I edited internally since started, I will make sure to fix it
    > in the next version.
    
    Who said that this is automated?  If enough LIRs give me 50 EUR/month,
    I can hire a few students who will sit there all day waiting for
    confirmation requests and dutifully do (as humans) what they are
    expected to do.
    
    You do not seem to be willing to listen: what you propose is sheer and 
    uncalled-for extra annoyance for the vast majority of LIRs, and will 
    do *nothing* to improve abuse handling.  All it will do is ensure that 
    someone wastes a few minutes of human lifetime on your challenge.
    
    And *that* can be nicely outsourced.

    
    Gert Doering
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