[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 and over-reach

Hi,


On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, Nick Hilliard wrote:

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> Competition legislation talks about concepts like "dominant position", not 
> just strict monopolies.

I sincerely hope the EU doesn't go after RIPE NCC due to this "dominant 
position".


> The RIPE NCC is the registry for the addressing market in the RIPE NCC 
> service area,

...and beyond, it seems. :-))

Something i need to find out is if the other four RIRs allow companies 
from outside their service region to request resources (IPv6 and ASNs 
mostly, nowadays...) on their region like RIPE NCC does.


> so you can't easily avoid dealing with the RIPE NCC if your business is 
> located in the RIPE NCC service area and involves something to do with 
> internet number resources

Hmmmm... i do think you can also go to a LIR........ but then you don't 
get true "independence", which is a downside but it shouldn't be a 
complete show-stopper.

I mean, *today* if company X stops paying RIPE NCC and loses assets (an 
IPv4 /22 and an IPv6 /32 maybe?) they can still go to any LIR that has 
that space available to rent an IPv4 /24 and a bunch of IPv6 /48s through 
a contract, right?


> and you want to exercise your fundamental right to conduct business.

In the above case they would still exercise it, but not directly with the 
RIPE NCC.



> Also, this is only a complicating factor on top of the objections I raised to 
> 2019-03 - although from a practical point of view, it likely causes 
> catastrophic and inescapable problems for the principals behind the proposal.

I need to re-read all your objections. Thanks for the reminder.


Best Regards,
Carlos


> Nick