[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 09:33:42PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
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>In message <CAFV686e9aa8xhACUz+ePfbELU74MPcE-2PiC2-kpU-1xAptxFA at mail.gmail.com>
>Jacob Slater <jacob at rezero.org> wrote:
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>All I know is that the RIPE WHOIS data base contains, among much other stuff,
>route: object which generally document what is generally believed to be
>information about properly authorized (by the affected resources holder)
>routing permissions.  If there exists information about properly authorized

Right now, only the prefix owner needs to authorise the route:
object. In the past, the ASN needed to be authorised as well but
this proved unworkable in practice.

>Second, although the word "vigilante" has, in the modern era, come to have
>much negative connotation, there was quite certainly was a time and place
>when and where that was not so.  I am speaking specifically of the
>American West in the time before it became entirely civilized and in
>the time before it had a full compliment of established legislatures,
>established laws, established courts, established (and paid) law enforcement
>agents, and all of the other bits, pieces, and accoutrements, of what
>we all, in the modern era, think of as a properly functioning system of
>justice.  In that time and place early settlers did often band together
>in order to enforce at least some sense of community-backed justice.
>It wasn't always pretty, and it wasn't always fair or just, but in the
>absence of officially authorized systems of justice, it was often all
>that those early settlers had to defend themselves from the unjust
>tyrany of the strong against the weak.

True, and when that became out-of-control and abusive the
government would send the cavalry and the marshals and restore
some semblance of rule of law. (at least that is how I remember
it worked in Western films)
I wonder whether it is time to issue movement warnings to the
cavalry...

rgds,
SL