[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:36 PM Ricardo Patara <ricpatara at gmail.com> wrote:

> On this line of one ISP trying to make damage to other.
>
> One might abuse a vulnerable router (thousand out there), create a tunnel
> to it
> and announce hijacked blocks originated from victims ASN.
>
> Both, victim ASN and vulnerable router owner, would be damaged and no
> traces of
> criminal.
> How could they defend themselves to the so called group of experts?
>
> And things in this line had happened already.
>
> Regards,
>
>
That's exactly my point from above for distributing responsibility over
things that AS may do over its direct peers :)  With example from Furio all
ASNs in proposed topology could be blamed at once, for example. Determining
exact topology may be somewhat not trivial, but not as hard as paper
relations where both sides are claiming their innocence. So, for this
version of proposal, I rather NAK it because it brings more potential mess
than the usefulness against bad actors.
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