[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)

Jordi,

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> I can figure several possible ways to avoid that.
> 1) Contractual (not sure if this can be done in a policy) changes to indicate
> than in case of a policy violation, the account becomes frozen immediately,
> until actions to close the account are completed.
> 2) A modification to the transfers policy that indicates that no transfers can
> be initiated if the any of the parties are involved in an investigation for policy
> violation.
> 3) A specific policy about implications of policy violations.
> 
> If instead of that we want explicit text about that in this policy proposal, that
> means possibly a way for slowing down the process, which at the time being
> it seems to me there is a major agreement of favor of doing something.
> Furthermore, having explicit text here means that other policy violations
> need to have their own way, and I think we must have a single path for
> resolving those issues, not one for each possible policy violation case.
> 
> Does that make sense ?
> 
> Can we agree that it will be better to have this discussion in a separate
> thread/policy proposal, in order to avoid this to be a show-stopper for this
> policy proposal?
> 
> Would the chairs allow that thread in this list or suggest an alternative WG for
> a possible policy proposal?

Good question, but I think that any policy dealing with changing how the NCC should react to policy violations will be... complex. I also don't think AA-WG is the right place for such a general policy. So if you, as the author, don't wish to insert it into your policy (and I can understand your reasoning fully), then I think  a separate policy, likely pointed towards somewhere like NCC Services would be more apt.

I would caution that such things are likely to have a large interaction with/involvement of the NCC Membership, where such discussions have been very divided in the past. I think you and many other people are aware of this, but I just wanted to flag it.

Brian
Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG

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