[anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

Fi Shing,

As far as I know there is nothing in any policy about decommissioning 
resources. (I'm not even sure what that would mean in practice...)

I don't think that such a proposal would get consensus in the RIPE 
community, but I am often wrong so if you want this then please submit a 
policy proposal. The RIPE NCC staff, the working group chairs, or some 
friendly community member can help you with this.

Cheers,

--
Shane

On 08/03/2019 22.25, Fi Shing wrote:
> /But Marco's response mentions to *correcting* the contact addresses, not
> just verifying them. That involves working with human beings, so it
> makes sense that it will take a while./
> /
> /
> No it doesn't - that was the whole point of the "change" in the first 
> place, that it was to reduce the amount of verification needed to be 
> done by RIPE. There is a simple automated way to verify the entries - 
> click a link, enter a CAPTCHA, or your resources are decommissioned 
> within 24 hours.
> 
> How much crime can be committed in the months it has taken (and 
> continues to take)?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?
>     From: Shane Kerr <shane at time-travellers.org
>     <mailto:shane at time-travellers.org>>
>     Date: Fri, March 08, 2019 9:40 pm
>     To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net <mailto:anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net>
> 
>     Fi Shing,
> 
>     I'm sure verifying the delivery of 70k e-mails (or however many is in
>     the database) can be done in a few hours.
> 
>     But Marco's response mentions to *correcting* the contact addresses,
>     not
>     just verifying them. That involves working with human beings, so it
>     makes sense that it will take a while.
> 
>     Cheers,
> 
>     --
>     Shane
> 
>     On 08/03/2019 11.07, Fi Shing wrote:
>     > If it takes more than a week to verify your entire database, there is 
>     > the first sign that something is wrong with your system.
>     > 
>     > 
>     >     -------- Original Message --------
>     >     Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?
>     >     From: Marco Schmidt <mschmidt at ripe.net <mailto:mschmidt at ripe.net>
>      ><mailto:mschmidt at ripe.net>>
>     >     Date: Thu, March 07, 2019 10:03 pm
>     >     To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg at tristatelogic.com <mailto:rfg at tristatelogic.com>
>     >     <mailto:rfg at tristatelogic.com>>,
>     >     anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net <mailto:anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net>
>     <mailto:anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net>
>     > 
>     >     Hello Ronald,
>     > 
>     >     We are planning to publish an updated timeline soon.
>     > 
>     >     Ultimately, our implementation will depend of the level of cooperation
>     >     we get from LIRs and the nature of issues that need to be fixed before
>     >     an abuse contact can be updated (for example, some organisations may
>     >     need to reset their maintainer password).
>     > 
>     >     Over the next few weeks we will be analysing our progress, to make a
>     >     realistic estimation. From observations so far, we think we might be
>     >     able to finish our initial validation of all abuse contacts within six
>     >     months - but it is still too early to make any strong predictions.
>     > 
>     >     Kind regards,
>     >     Marco Schmidt
>     >     RIPE NCC
>     > 
>     > 
>     >     On 05/03/2019 21:51, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>     >     > In message <9c95c110-d5a3-e94a-6b3c-b02030736e7c at ripe.net
>     <mailto:9c95c110-d5a3-e94a-6b3c-b02030736e7c at ripe.net>
>     >     <mailto:9c95c110-d5a3-e94a-6b3c-b02030736e7c at ripe.net>>,
>     >     > Marco Schmidt <mschmidt at ripe.net <mailto:mschmidt at ripe.net>
>      ><mailto:mschmidt at ripe.net>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >> It is correct that the implementation phase is still ongoing. Currently
>     >     >> we are validating all the abuse contact information referenced in LIR
>     >     >> organisation objects. Then we will proceed with the validation of abuse
>     >     >> contacts referenced in LIR resource objects - the example that you
>     >     >> mentioned belongs to this group. And finally all abuse contacts
>     >     >> referenced in End User (sponsored) objects will be validated.
>     >     > Thanks for the info Marco.
>     >     >
>     >     > I guess the only question I would ask is this:  Is there a published
>     >     > timeline for how this whole process is planned to play out, and for
>     >     > when it is planned to be completed?
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > Regards,
>     >     > rfg
>     >     >
>     > 
>     > 
> 
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