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[anti-abuse-wg] 213.0.0.0/8 and AS12445 (selenebs.it aka "A2A Smart City S.P.A"/Italy)
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Siyuan Miao
siyuan at misaka.io
Sun Apr 7 08:29:15 CEST 2019
Hi Ronald, It seems like a route leak to RIS or something similar like Isolario, rt-bgp.he.net. Neither of its upstream will accept 213.0.0.0/8 so it won't affect the Internet. Regards, Siyuan Miao On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 2:16 PM Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com> wrote: > > I guess that I have a lot to learn yet about routing. Maybe some of you > folks will yet again take pity on me and explain this to me. > > From where I am sitting it appears that AS12445 is announcing a route to > all of 213.0.0.0/8. (I only happened to find out about this because, > as it happens there are some spamming inside of 213.0.0.0/8.) > > Anyway, this is my reference source: > > https://bgp.he.net/AS12445#_prefixes > > I did think that I should try to just email the official contacts AS12445 > privately to inquire about this, and so I sent email to all three of > the contact email addresses listed in the RIPE WHOIS record for AS12445, > but as you can all see below, that didn't really work out very well. > > Anyway, this doesn't seem to be such a great idea, security-wise, i.e. to > allow random network to announce routes to entire /8s (or larger) that > don't actually belong to them. > > It is hard for me to tell how long this has been ongoing in the case of > this specific prefix and this specific ASN. If anyone else can illuminate > me regarding that, then I would appreciate it. > > > ------- Forwarded Message > > Return-Path: <> > X-Original-To: rfg at tristatelogic.com > Delivered-To: rfg at tristatelogic.com > Received: by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) > id 323DF3AFF4; Sat, 6 Apr 2019 22:57:35 -0700 (PDT) > Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 22:57:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: MAILER-DAEMON at tristatelogic.com (Mail Delivery System) > Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > To: rfg at tristatelogic.com > Auto-Submitted: auto-replied > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; > boundary="8E09A3AEF2.1554616655/segfault.tristatelogic.com" > Message-Id: <20190407055735.323DF3AFF4 at segfault.tristatelogic.com> > > This is a MIME-encapsulated message. > > - --8E09A3AEF2.1554616655/segfault.tristatelogic.com > Content-Description: Notification > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > This is the mail system at host segfault.tristatelogic.com. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > The mail system > > <galasso at selenebs.it>: host > selenebs-it.mail.protection.outlook.com[104.47.10.36] said: 550 5.4.1 > [galasso at selenebs.it]: Recipient address rejected: Access denied > [DB5EUR03FT051.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.com] (in reply to > RCPT TO > command) > > <gvinetti at selenebs.it>: host > selenebs-it.mail.protection.outlook.com[104.47.10.36] said: 550 5.4.1 > [gvinetti at selenebs.it]: Recipient address rejected: Access denied > [DB5EUR03FT051.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.com] (in reply to > RCPT TO > command) > > - --8E09A3AEF2.1554616655/segfault.tristatelogic.com > Content-Description: Delivery report > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > Reporting-MTA: dns; segfault.tristatelogic.com > X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8E09A3AEF2 > X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; rfg at tristatelogic.com > Arrival-Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 22:57:32 -0700 (PDT) > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; galasso at selenebs.it > Original-Recipient: rfc822;galasso at selenebs.it > Action: failed > Status: 5.4.1 > Remote-MTA: dns; selenebs-it.mail.protection.outlook.com > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.4.1 [galasso at selenebs.it]: Recipient address > rejected: Access denied > [DB5EUR03FT051.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.com] > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; gvinetti at selenebs.it > Original-Recipient: rfc822;gvinetti at selenebs.it > Action: failed > Status: 5.4.1 > Remote-MTA: dns; selenebs-it.mail.protection.outlook.com > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.4.1 [gvinetti at selenebs.it]: Recipient address > rejected: Access denied > [DB5EUR03FT051.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.com] > > - --8E09A3AEF2.1554616655/segfault.tristatelogic.com > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > Return-Path: <rfg at tristatelogic.com> > Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E09A3AEF2; > Sat, 6 Apr 2019 22:57:32 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg at tristatelogic.com> > To: gvinetti at selenebs.it, galasso at selenebs.it, abuse at selenebs.it > Subject: 213.0.0.0/8 > Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2019 22:57:32 -0700 > Message-ID: <32415.1554616652 at segfault.tristatelogic.com> > > > Greetings, > > I waas wondering if you people could explain to me why your ASN (AS12445) > announcing a route at all of 213.0.0.0/8. > > I don't think that your network has been assigned that entire huge block > of IPv4 addresses or that all of that IPv4 space belongs to you. > > Do you disagree? > > > https://bgp.he.net/AS12445#_prefixes > > > > - --8E09A3AEF2.1554616655/segfault.tristatelogic.com-- > > ------- End of Forwarded Message > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: </ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20190407/4a2fa57a/attachment.html>
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