[anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 -- was about 2019-03

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 08:32:39PM +0200, Karl-Josef Ziegler wrote:
>> Yes, this is also my opinion. The community should do something against 
>> this abusive behavior.
>> If it isn't done by the community there might be some regulation coming 
>> from outside, i.e.
>> political entities. And I doubt that this will be the better way to handle 
>> this problem.
>
> I am starting to come around to the opinion that such regulation
> would actually be preferrable to this. Legislative regulation, at
> least in democratic societies, imposes responsibilities but it
> also gives *rights*. Namely constitutionality, the right to have
> such regulation applied transparently and fairly and, most
> importantly, the right to judicial review. None of which applies
> to the vigilante kind of "justice" the proponents wish the RIPE
> NCC to become the enforcer of. Given these two choices, I know
> which way I'd vote.

Hi,

So you seem to prefer regulation over self-regulation?

And who would be doing that regulation?
- some EC org (service region goes way beyond EU...)
- the Dutch Telecoms Regulator?
- ITU-T?
- ...?

Honestly, i don't have a clue...

Regards,
Carlos


> rgds,
> SL
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