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[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)
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Ángel González Berdasco
angel.gonzalez at incibe.es
Mon Apr 1 17:29:16 CEST 2019
Gert Doering writes: > Hi, > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 01:54:42PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > To say that any such funds now being paid to RIPE are "tainted" would be a > > rather gross understatement. > > > > This is the elephant in the room that none of the opponents of 2019-03 > > wants to talk about, i.e. the rather inconvenient fact that RIPE, due > > to its intransigent lethargy, is quite apparently doing business, even > > as we speak, with known and well-identified cyber-criminals. > > So, your local supermarket is also not allowed to sell anything to > a convicted criminal? > > Sorry, this is getting ridiculous. > > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster Actually, if someone came to your local supermarket attempting to pay with a stolen good, it would probably be illegal for the supermarket to knowingly perform such transaction. As for the original question, the relevant entry of Dutch Penal code seems to be 417bis: > * a. a person who acquires, possesses or transfers a > good, or establishes or transfers a personal right or > right in rem in respect of a good, while at the time > of the acquisition or possession of the good or the > establishment of a good the law should reasonably have > suspected that it concerned a property acquired > through a crime; > * b. he who, for profit, holds or transfers a good or > transfers a personal right to or right in respect of a > good, while he must reasonably suspect that it > concerns a good acquired through a crime. > (via Google Translator of https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heling) Cheers -- INCIBE-CERT - CERT of the Spanish National Cybersecurity Institute https://www.incibe-cert.es/ PGP Keys: https://www.incibe-cert.es/en/what-is-incibe-cert/pgp-public-keys ======================================================================== INCIBE-CERT is the Spanish National CSIRT designated for citizens, private law entities, other entities not included in the subjective scope of application of the "Ley 40/2015, de 1 de octubre, de Régimen Jurídico del Sector Público", as well as digital service providers, operators of essential services and critical operators under the terms of the "Real Decreto-ley 12/2018, de 7 de septiembre, de seguridad de las redes y sistemas de información" that transposes the Directive (EU) 2016/1148 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 6 July 2016 concerning measures for a high common level of security of network and information systems across the Union. ======================================================================== Disclaimer: This message may contain confidential information, within the framework of the corporate Security Management System.If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete this message without forwarding or retaining a copy, since any unauthorized use is strictly prohibited by law. ========================================================================
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