[anti-abuse-wg] GDPR - positive effects on email abuse

Ronald,

We understand that you are against the application of GDPR to the ICANN Whois. So noted.

However your language below repeatedly goes beyond what I believe is acceptable under the RIPE Community Code of Conduct. You are insulting people both in broad swathes and specific instances.

As I said, there is no problem expressing your opinion of any law, proposal or idea, but please do so without any ad hominem attacks nor repeated references to imagined groups.

Brian
Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: anti-abuse-wg [mailto:anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of
> Ronald F. Guilmette
> Sent: 29 May 2018 20:17
> To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] GDPR - positive effects on email abuse
> 
> 
> In message <5F2D3EAE-BF59-4E61-B17B-BF45F3DF0922 at consulintel.es>,
> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es> wrote:
> 
> >Whois, as everything in the life, has good and bad things.
> >
> >Against: Privacy invaded. In fact, when you register a new domain and
> >you associate a visible email to it, in a matter of hours, you get spam.
> 
> This is an entirely specious argument used in an attempt to justify a ridiculous
> conclusion.
> 
> It's like saying that if one goes out out of one's home, then there is a finite
> non-zero chance that one will be run over by a drunk driver, and that
> therefore, everyone should stay inside and never leave their homes.  This
> "solution" is being offered in place of the obvious one, i.e. working to
> identify drunk drivers and then working to get them off the roads (or
> equivalently, working to identify spammers and then working to get them off
> the Internet, which is what I do).
> 
> To be clear, I really don't care if any set of private citizens decide for
> themselves, and of their own free will, that they should never leave their
> homes in order to avoid ever being run over.  That's their choice to make.
> What I -do- mind is regional governmental bodies, such as the unelected
> European Council, dictating to me, and to everyone else on the planet,
> European or otherwise, that we all -must- deal with the problem of drunk
> drivers by staying inside our homes 24/7.
> 
> Just because you Europeans have become infected with some kind of
> obscure mental disease that impairs your abilities to think clearly, or to
> effectively differentiate reasonable solutions to problems from silly ones, do
> you really have to go around *spreading* this disease to the rest of the
> world?
> 
> (I won't even ask what makes you all think that you have the divine right to
> do so.  I doubt that the answer would be any different today than it was in
> the year 1095.)
> 
> 
> Regards,
> rfg