[anti-abuse-wg] GDPR - positive effects on email abuse

yes, which is why the registrar information on the domain whois are 100%
accurate and all working, valid data.

and no, the resources assigned by the RR, specially the legacy, is not
at all the same thing.

look how much of a battle and uphill struggle it was to even reach consensus 
on validating abuse records in terms of policy in this very wg.

this, is part of the confusion.

and I am not ranting about anything :)

I am simply speaking my mind. Others that experience (or have
experienced) the same type of things that I am speaking of, or will
maybe in the future experience the same type of things, 

will recognise what I am saying and all of us know this:

that we have to do something or we will all be done for.

Andre


On Tue, 29 May 2018 15:38:08 +0100 (WEST)
Carlos Friaças <cfriacas at fccn.pt> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> One can argue that a "real abuse contact" related to a DNS domain is 
> necessary for the contract's performance, no?
> 
> The same is valid about the contract between RIPE/NCC and LIRs over 
> assigned IP address space, right?
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlos
> 
> 
> On Tue, 29 May 2018, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 02:50:09PM +0200, Simon Forster wrote:  
> >> Would you be able to point to the section of the GDPR which states
> >> this? Admission: I have yet to make it to the end of the 88 pages
> >> of the act without falling asleep.  
> >
> > It derives (also the tenor of NOYB's filing, aiui) from Article
> > 7(4):
> >
> > "4. When assessing whether consent is freely given, utmost
> > account shall be taken of whether, inter alia, the performance of
> > a contract, including the provision of a service, is conditional
> > on consent to the processing of personal data that is not
> > necessary for the performance of that contract."
> >
> > http://www.privacy-regulation.eu/en/article-7-conditions-for-consent-GDPR.htm
> >
> > cheers,
> > Sascha Luck
> >  
> >>   
> >>> The first case regarding this has already been filed:
> >>> https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/max-schrems-files-first-cases-under-gdpr-against-facebook-and-google-1.3508177 
> >>> <https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/max-schrems-files-first-cases-under-gdpr-against-facebook-and-google-1.3508177>  
> >> I appreciate a motion has been filed. However, I???d surprised if
> >> the case purely revolved around this single point.
> >> 
> >> It is positive that some of this stuff is going to be tested in
> >> court sooner rather than later. Having said that, it may be
> >> <sarcasm> a day or two </sarcasm> before we get to see a final
> >> judgement with no further appeals.
> >> 
> >> All the best
> >> 
> >> Simon  
> >  
>