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[anti-abuse-wg] GDPR - positive effects on email abuse
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Volker Greimann
vgreimann at key-systems.net
Tue May 29 16:48:08 CEST 2018
This is another argument often raised, yet it is missing the point of the legality of these registers. Yes, there are certain public or non-public registers like the land register (public) or the car registration register (non-public), but each of these are mandated by law. If you buy land, there is a legal requirement to get yourself registered. This legal basis is sufficient grounds for data processing under the GDPR under Art 6 I c) ("processing is necessary for compliance with a legal obligation to which the controller is subject"). But that is exactly the point: No such law exists for IP adresses or whois, hence the logic of having these registeres cannot be transferred to these services. Now, some countries have such laws and ccTLD registries will continue to legally publish whois details for their TLD registrations. But most do not, and if they do, these laws are specifically tailored to their own TLD. Volker Am 29.05.2018 um 16:42 schrieb Ángel González Berdasco: > Volker Greimann wrote: >> Hi Simon, >> >> that is a common misconception, but sadly untrue. >> >>> As things stand at the moment, the interpretations of GDPR and subsequent actions of some large organisations make it likely that fraud and other types of malpractice, largely aimed at individual users, will increase. >> On the other hand, the amount of spam and abuse directed at new >> registrant will be greatly reduced. Balance will be the result. >>> The stated position "that tool was illegal to begin with as it violated the rights to privacy of millions of domain owners” is, at best, misleading. Assuming the “tool” being referred to is WHIOS, registrants of domains needed to provide information as part of their contract with the registrar. A contractual requirement. Perfectly OK pre GDPR, perfectly OK post GDPR. >> Sadly untrue, since consent to processing of data that is not strictly >> necessary for the performance of the contract post GDPR must be freely >> given. If the service is withheld unless consent is provided, that >> consent is invalid. >> Even before GDPR, the consent for whois was iffy as best. > Don't you have real estate registration in your country that is publicly > accessible? If so, do you think it should now be banned under GDPR (if > in EU)? > > I see your point, but it is not *that* clear. > > Best regards > > -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. Greimann - Rechtsabteilung - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook: www.facebook.com/KeySystems www.twitter.com/key_systems Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen. -------------------------------------------- Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards, Volker A. Greimann - legal department - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated: www.facebook.com/KeySystems www.twitter.com/key_systems CEO: Alexander Siffrin Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.
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