[anti-abuse-wg] GDPR - positive effects on email abuse

Brian

Agreed.

Regards

Michele


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On 29/05/2018, 09:32, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Brian Nisbet" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net on behalf of brian.nisbet at heanet.ie> wrote:

    Folks,
    
    GDPR is a valid subject for this WG. Discussions around how it will affect things around abuse of the Internet is valid etc. etc.
    
    However let's not get into whose government is better or worse, please. 
    
    Thanks,
    
    Brian
    
    Brian Nisbet 
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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of ox
    > Sent: Tuesday 29 May 2018 06:53
    > To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
    > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] GDPR - positive effects on email abuse
    > 
    > On Mon, 28 May 2018 12:13:32 -0700
    > "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg at tristatelogic.com> wrote:
    > <snip>
    > > >The EU has truly become a world and global leader in the reclamation
    > > >of individual rights and the free Internet.
    > > Here on this side of the pond, one usually has to turn on Fox News in
    > > order to be treated to this level of rubbish.
    > >
    > or read a Tweet from the President of the United States that says the evil
    > democratic party is responsible for the separation of little children from their
    > refugee parents - whereas and in truth it is the President himself that is
    > responsible. - And innocent little children are being "lost" by the thousands
    > by the American Government?
    > 
    > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/us/trump-immigrant-children-
    > lost.html
    > 
    > The USA and US citizens have lost credibility or any moral high ground.
    > 
    > As far as Fox news are concerned (are they the people that say "Good
    > Morning President Trump", when broadcasting to the US each morning?)
    > 
    > As far as Internet Abuse and 'private' "researchers" are concerned: So,
    > private researchers have 'rights' to obtain other 'private' people's private
    > information?
    > 
    > I cannot wait for the EU to yet again lead the world with ePrivacy as all the
    > USA does is dominate, control, track, divide and so many other negative
    > things.
    > 
    > The EU has become an innovator, protector and Internet light.
    > 
    > > The only thing that has happened is that private researchers the world
    > > over have been effectively blinded due to the supreme arogance and
    > > idiocy of europeans... europeans who, in their religious fervor, have
    > > come to view it as their holy obligation to foist their demented
    > > notions onto the rest of the world, whether any of the rest of us like
    > > it or not.
    > >
    > > Meanwhile the malevolent forces of state-sponsored intrigue and
    > > violation of human rights are and shall remain totally unfettered and
    > 
    > violation of human rights?
    > 
    > wow.
    > 
    > Your government loses innocent little children and you have the audacity to
    > lecture?
    > 
    > When you take a little baby or a 2 year old (still also a baby) and LOSE that
    > human person?
    > 
    > Have you no shame?
    > 
    > With whatever respect you deserve: You cannot lecture or comment on
    > "state-sponsored intrigue and violation of human rights"
    > 
    > As your own country is part of the problem, that others have to help you
    > solve and resolve.
    > 
    > As for abuse and as to how this all relates to abuse: It is mostly US companies
    > that are infringing on the privacy of citizens of all other countries.
    > 
    > I need not rehash how the top USA Internet companies abuse children,
    > develop technology to kill people or completely colonise and enslave
    > developing societies.
    > 
    > or even lose the little babies they have violently dragged from the hands of
    > their mothers.
    > 
    > Andre