[anti-abuse-wg] 2017-02: what does it achieve?

Malcolm

At the moment people can put in any rubbish they want into an abuse-c and there is zero validation.

The proposed change will mean that at least there is a valid email address at the other side even if it triggers an auto-response. In fact an auto-reply would be preferable to the black holes in many cases .. 

Regards

Michele

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On 25/09/2017, 15:02, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Malcolm Hutty" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net on behalf of malcolm at linx.net> wrote:

    On 25/09/2017 14:26, herve.clement at orange.com wrote:
    > With regard to your first scenario, the auto-answer you mention can be
    > considered as a valid reply, and the "support service" would help to
    > proceed with the abuse report.
    
    Hervé,
    
    Thank you for your reply.
    
    If an autoresponder directing the enquirer to go read a FAQ, and
    possibly submit a web ticket, is deemed compliant with this policy it
    seems unlikely to do much harm, albeit equally unlikely to do anything
    terribly useful.
    
    I still think Gregory's/Europol's needs would be better addressed by
    asking the NCC to provide a simple visualisation tool for the BGP
    routing table that enabled investigators to easily discover for a given
    network that was targetted for investigation which other network was
    providing the transit.
    
    I strongly suspect that for most of the suspect networks Europol has
    difficulty pinning down there is a very small number (maybe even only
    one) much larger, more reputable, and more easily found located network
    operator who would also be much more willing to be cooperative - and the
    only thing standing in the way of Europol making such an approach is
    difficulty in inspecting routing and visualising these relationships.
    That may not provide a perfect solutions in all cases, but neither will
    asking the NCC to validate data submitted by a small number of
    organisations that wish to conceal/lie about their data, hiding in
    amongst a large number of organisations that fail to maintain their data
    for less nefarious reasons.
    
    
    Malcolm.
    
    
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