[anti-abuse-wg] [db-wg] RIPE Policy Proposal 2017-02 Validates Database Attributes

Hi,

On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 05:54:04PM +0100, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
> I will discuss this here as I do not accept the Anti-Abuse WG as
> a forum for this proposal. For one thing, this proposal affects
> every ripedb user - in fact, as this entails changes to how the
> NCC provides services, the services-wg would be an even better
> venue. For another, given the "population" and culture of
> "debate" on the AAWG, any "consensus" reached there would be so
> worthless as to be farcical. (If anyone wants amplification on
> this, https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/
> provides ample evidence.

Sascha, I sympathize with you on this, but this is not how the PDP
works - a policy proposal has to be "anchored" on one working group
(theoretically a "plenary" proposal would be possible, but I'm not 
sure how the mechanics of that would work out).  The WG chairs usually
speak to each other beforehand and see where it would fit "best" if
multiple WGs are concerned - and then one WG takes it, and the other
is sent a HEADS UP notice so folks not usually on the proposal's WG
mailing list can make themselves heard.

As we say over in APWG "if it's not on the list, it has not happened" -
and this is valid here as well: if you oppose the proposal, please make
yourself heard on the anti-abuse WG list.  Everything else is just "noise
in the hallway".

Even if you and I know it could lead to insults of the sort "who opposes 
this proposal is really joining forces with spammers!"...

(I haven't decided myself whether I think this is useful or not, but
will make myself heard over there)

Gert Doering
        -- Network citizen with some experience in policy making mechanics...
-- 
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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