[anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists

Folks,

I'm clearly going to have to point out, again, that this list is not the 
place for any ad hominem attacks. It's that simple. And yes, calling 
someone a sociopath or a Nazi counts.

I know people will probably claim this is censorious or something. It 
isn't. The discussions and information sharing can take place without 
these kind of references and without guessing at the motives behind why 
someone did something.

Brian

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Marilson wrote on 28/05/2017 02:26:
> On May 26 ox wrote:
>> ROFLMAO you are so funny! sending from an @gmail.com email address :)
> (the pot & kettle thing)
>
> I'm glad you're having fun, after all you're always dissatisfied with
> the acceptance of your arguments... But do not worry! You will never be
> persona non grata to the group as I am. ;)
>
> For your enjoyment I will improve the joke I told you about: (because I
> am Google/Hetzner.de)
>
> 1- In 2013 Martin Hetzner blocked the blog of a customer, an Estonian
> anti-spam activist (Tonu Samuel) because he reported an alleged spammer
> (Silver Teede). An Estonian Courtawarded Samuel damages for the loss of
> his servers.
> 2- On Aug 2014, in the service of a Putin repressive organ,
> Roskomnadzor, blocked the online newspaper Glavcom.ua to prevent him
> from publishing news about the federalization of Siberia. There was so
> much repercussion that apologized but Glavcom changed provider. Martin
> Hetzner dared to confront freedom of the press for Putin.
> 3- On Jan 2016, Hetzner blocked the St. Petersburg site of Novaya
> Gazeta, the leading oppositional, non-governmental newspaper in Russia.
> It was another act of repression of freedom of the press in favor of his
> idol, the psychopath Putin.
> 4- And refuses to suspend criminal customers and spammers. And he
> pursues those who denounce as he did with Tonu Samuel (item 1 above).
> 5- This sociopath, Mr. Martin Hetzner, has been trying, since 2015, to
> hide his criminal customer, but he has failed. Perhaps this incompetence
> explain your need to have illicit activities to not go bankrupt. But
> what would explain his professional life story?
> 6- This sociopath, owner of hetzner.de, is determined to prove that he
> is above the laws and regulations. I have denounced your customer,
> Marcos Antonio da Hora Silva, a criminal and hated Brazilian spammer,
> since 2015, with evidence of criminal activity. (From my complaint of
> January 9, 2017)
>
> @Andre, about the "pot-kettle situation" you are partially correct.
> After reporting for the third time the same scammer to the same ISP, I
> practice spam. I copy my complaint to everyone: for all the providers
> involved, main medias, institutions that fight spam, Anonymous, RIR and
> police organs to combat crime on the Internet
> (4dp.dig.deic at policiacivil.sp.gov.br
> <mailto:4dp.dig.deic at policiacivil.sp.gov.br> in my Sao Paulo city).
>
> I accept your insult (pot-kettle) as a "spammer" to combat spammer and
> criminal ISPs. But do not confuse me with your Nazi colleagues. My
> humanist education does not allow me to act like a sociopath, irritating
> and extorting people. Denouncing is my duty as a citizen.
>
> If you continue to call your competitors from criminal companies someone
> will call you Pot. :)
>
> Marilson
>
> *From:* ox <mailto:andre at ox.co.za>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 6:38 AM
> *To:* Marilson <mailto:marilson.mapa at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net <mailto:anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists
>
> On Fri, 26 May 2017 05:24:51 -0300
> "Marilson" <marilson.mapa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > look at the headers of this email, check my hetzner.de IP number
>> > and then do the same for other reporting systems...
>> OMG, you are using Hetzner.de as a sender! An ISP with a dirty
>> history of repression of press freedom and defense of spammers and
>> arrogant political psychopaths.
>>
> ROFLMAO you are so funny! sending from an @gmail.com email address :)
> (the pot & kettle thing)
>
> Andre