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[anti-abuse-wg] Abuse: Too big to fail
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andre at ox.co.za
Mon Jun 19 10:48:11 CEST 2017
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 01:06:27 -0700 "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg at tristatelogic.com> wrote: > And anyway, if you don't like the gunk you are getting from this one > domain, twitter.com, why don't you just block all emails from > twitter.com? > Do you not know how to do that? If not, maybe we can find someone who > can help you with setting up domain-specific blocking for your > specific email client. > most people on this list deal with or are interested - or involved with - abuse. I would guess that many are either agents for their governments (or for some government), Law enforcement of some kind, network/ip abuse, abuse administration, rbl/dnsbl and/or abuse database and tracking, Internet societies and/or organizations etc. Few people on this list, I would think, are just normal and/or average users who require assistance with configuring their own spam filters, but thank you for offering to help me to find someone to configure my own spam filters. As it happens I too, personally, do not receive any spam from Twitter, and my server IP, which I use to comm with this list, only receives a few Twitter spams per day (maybe 10?) as all decent criminal syndicates know better than to simply give me their bots/nets/etc. :) But the simple truth is that Twitter is arguably the largest 'legal' spammer on the planet and they are unstoppable as the products (this are people with Twitter accounts) love followers and to be popular and these products even help the spammer to market and stay important. the people whom are abused have no recourse and as you said: you do not care as you are not affected. This is part of twitter marketing strategy and probably why they are so hard pressed to 'delete' fake accounts and act on criminal enterprise? The criminals help Twitter to remain relevant, like a pilot fish swimming next to a shark. Twitter helps the criminals to get close to their intended victims, etc. Then, there are so many 'products' that defend Twitter. (and Facebook and all the other multinationals) as 'products' are addicted to their multinational 'food' even on an Anti Abuse discussion group - some are trying to argue that in any universe, Twitter is a good netizen and not a criminal enterprise. - challenging me to post headers - even when some Twitter IP numbers are blocked by 30 different and independent International Blacklists... Simply ignoring the actual facts and actual statistics. As I said: All ethical, honest and functional blocklists lists Twitter as a Spammer. - It seems that at least 25% do actually list Twitter as a spammer, and that is quite a lot. So maybe there is hope after all? Andre
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