[anti-abuse-wg] RBL Discussion Update

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:47:53 +0000
HRH Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker <svenk at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> it's not only about spamhaus, it's about any rbl that -potentially- 
> -could get the idea- that they could force isps to 'contact them' by
> not having auto-delisting and/or also listing non-directly related
> ip's (Such as ips routed by the same parties or ips having urls
> resolving to them in 'spam', which could negatively impact an smtpd
> running on that ip, which is not the smtpd that originated the
> 'spam').
> furthermore, you're not in a position to make 'demands'. we own the 
> internet. you don't.
> 
yes, your rants from two emails ago was still only about Spamhaus :)

And, any RBL can list any IP number they please and there are so many
good and trusted RBLs that do not have any auto de-listing. 

Right now, even some of the large DNSBL that do have automatic removal,
is thinking about stopping auto removals and there are suggestions to
have "minimum listing times" I am not sure exactly what that means or
how it will work, but I assume that the specific list will not remove
any listing for a set period of time (like a penalty box)

In my own opinion, I think that all listing removals should only be
manual and that there is a set number of removals, after which listing
becomes permanent.

and, I am not demanding anything. lol

Andre