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[anti-abuse-wg] WG Chair Mailing List Decision
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Sascha Luck [ml]
aawg at c4inet.net
Thu Feb 16 15:40:02 CET 2017
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 01:05:19PM +0000, Brian Nisbet wrote: >This morning Tobias and I asked the NCC to take the very unusual >step, effectively immediately, of removing the person behind >svenk at xs4all.nl from the Anti-Abuse WG mailing list. This was >not done lightly, rather it was done to safeguard this >community. Safeguard it from what? Non-approved opinions? Please note that, as a notional member of said community, I was not asked whether I wanted to be "safeguarded". Thank you, Daddy, for looking out for my well-being but I'm old enough to look after that myself... >It is not a place to insult, to decry, to repeatedly state the >same point over and over While I agree, there are some others guilty of that, viz. the repeated accusation that ISPs (and the RIPE NCC) are criminals (or at least in league with such) etc. Seemingly, they have yet to be banned from this list. >or to discriminate against other members of the community based >on their race, creed, gender or sexual preferences. A quick browse (and thanks for making me have to do that)through the relevant contributions has not thrown up any obvious evidence of any such statements. If you have any that I might have missed, I'd like to see it. Otherwise, I think, an apology for what certainly reads like a gratuitious accusation is more than appropriate. >If we cannot maintain a list upon which reasonable discussion >can take place, then it leaves our community in a weakened >state. Agreed. So, if censorship be it, please remove all the other trolls, including their sockpuppets, from this list. I suspect it will be a very quiet one after that and perhaps deservedly so. If nobody is to be allowed to ridicule or criticise the "other" side - and the contributor has a valid point, however annoyingly presented, it is not a "community" but a "cult". Kind Regards, Sascha Luck
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