[anti-abuse-wg] Definition of Abuse - preamble

On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:16:09 +0200
> "Marilson" <marilson.mapa at gmail.com> wrote:
> > If a computer was infected for sending spam or malicious files, it
> > was stolen. After all we are talking about Internet, right? Are you
> > talking about what? Home invasion? Theft of objects?
> Just read what you, yourself are typing above:
> "If a computer was infected" - this means that: 
> Someone or something did something
> Someone or Something (or a program or whatever) DID infect
> So, the definition of Internet Abuse, As I have stated it - Works
> perfectly fine.
> Maybe If you read the definition again, it can help you?
> 
>  "The non sanctioned use of a resource to infringe upon the usage
>  rights of another resource"
> 
> This means: Someone (or something) USED you resource (Your PC) 
> to send spam or do something or use it for...
> 
Just in case someone technical now wants to tell me that a "pc" is not
an Internet Resource, PLEASE note: I am simply making it VERY simple so
that Marilson can understand it also...

In the example - the internet resource would of course NOT be Marilson's
PC - BUT his PC's resource (IP number, etc) or the resource that
Marilson's PC uses, on the Internet, - to abuse ANOTHER resource...

Just to be technically clear :)

And then, there is still no real world example of a single resource
abuse. So, I guess that means that the definition still holds up...

Andre


> See?
> 
> - If someone steals your PC or breaks into your home to steal your pc
>  It is NOT Internet Abuse...
> 
> If they break in and USE  your PC to send spam - Then of course it is
> Internet Abuse - and the definition holds up.
> 
> BUT
> 
> You are changing the point... You were siding with Gunther, and what
> Gunther said was:
> 
> a Single resource can do Internet Abuse...
> 
> You are involving multiple resources and then claiming that it
> addresses the first problem...
> 
> Not cool, so either you are arguing for the simple sake of arguing or
> you do not understand the problem.
> 
> Which is it?
> 
> Andre
>