[anti-abuse-wg] Russian carding... no, Islandic carding... no Belizian carding!

In message <F9901595-56B1-44A3-95C5-E9CB778A1F00 at gmail.com>, 
Fearghas Mckay <fearghas at gmail.com> wrote:

>So will Ron step up to write a Policy ?

To answer your question, yes, when and if I'm persuaded that doing so
will do any good and have any effect, I will.

Whether I will or won't, in the end, is largely contingent upon me
finding out whether any member has, in the past, ever been expelled
from the organization (RIPE NCC) for any cause other than non-payment
of dues/fees.

As I understand it, RIPE NCC has existed for about 25 years now.
If in all that long time, no member has ever been meaningfully
disiplined, or even meaningfully admonished for anything, ever,
other than non-payment of dues and/or fees owed, then I have to
ask myself whether or not that is an unspoken implicit or de facto
rule of the organization (RIPE NCC), i.e. that such disipline simply
never happens.  If so, the inference I would draw from that is that
I would just be wasting everyone time... including my own... if I
were to hope or suggest or propose that it be otherwise.

25 years is a lot of precedent and history to overcome.  If the power
to expell members has never been used, in all that time, I rather
doubt that anything that I might say or propose now, in 2016, is
going to change that longstanding tradition.


Regards,
rfg