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[anti-abuse-wg] Abusive behavior by Google Inc
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andre at ox.co.za
andre at ox.co.za
Thu Apr 14 18:04:41 CEST 2016
On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:48:30 +0100 Rob Evans <rhe at nosc.ja.net> wrote: > > so... example at gmail.com sends an email to michele at blacknight.com > > who bounces - "no such user" > > Gmail sends bounce to example at gmail.com --- blacknight.com -- > > technical read error / technical failure blacknight.com > Isn't this more likely to be a bug or a mishandled error rather > than malevolence? > i wish it was, but I do not think that it is as Gmail is non responsive on the issue - after receiving full headers and complaints from numerous of their own users and over longer than a week and, additionally, it is still ongoing. If it was a bug or a technical issue: The current searchable forums clearly explain where google used this custom/closed/cryptic error, as Suresh correctly stated, it is a message when the packet is dropped off before termination and it also is an error from google apps related to when the connection is dropped on SPF failure, etc. This is not external -> Gmail, but Gmail to external -> Gmail to Gmail If there is network connectivity issues between google servers it only happens when dnsbl or 550 bounce, etc is received for when Google phish/scam/spam too much coincidence and over too much time - so, my opinion right now is that this is abuse, it is evil and it is simply to avoid responsibility for handling abuse and then to reflect this same failure on the very victims that is refusing to receive their abuse. sofar - nobody has said anything to the contrary? andre
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