[anti-abuse-wg] Spam under protection. Believe it or not!

In message <66357380-F3DF-40DD-98C5-A351D9E4E753 at blacknight.com>, 
Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com> wrote:

>Privacy is a right in many jurisdictions, but ICANN policy forces
>publication of full whois data.

It has been quite a long time since I have had the opportunity to read
even one such blatantly false bullshit statement, let alone two in a row
back-to-back as it were!

"Privacy is a right in many jurisdictions".

Bullshit.

Try renting a car in _any_ jurisdiction without giving the people you are
renting from your credit card number AND a whole lot of personal information.
So NOW where is your alleged "right to privacy"?  It is nothing more than
a bullshit illusion, occupying only the space between your ears.

Yes, you have a right to privacy... just as long as you either live in
a cave or else stay indoors and never transact any business with anybody,
ever.  But if you ask for responsibility... e.g. for a loan or for a
rental car... then you MUST give over a whole lot of information about
yourself.  It should be no different when you register a domain name.

Do you think that publishers of newspapers are all hiding in anonymity?

Do you think that having a domain name is anything other than a means
to publish things?

"...but ICANN policy forces publication of full whois data."

Not for the ACTUAL domain registrant they don't!  Instead they allow
phony baloney "front men" to stand in for the real guy... sort of like
the mafia uses.  It's the same principal at work.

Criminals everywhere are very greatful to ICANN.


>Referring to whois privacy / proxy services as "dubious services" is
>highly offensive

God!  I HOPE SO!

It is really well past time that SOMEBODY called this spade a spade.

>to the thousands, if not millions, of legitimate users of
>whois privacy / proxy services who use them to avoid harassment, doxing,
>physical abuse etc.,

This is the standard "pro forma" excuse / rationale for why we must have
these criminal proxy registration services.  It is now, just what it
always was:  Bullshit.

Where are these ``millions'' of people who both (a) need their own Internet
domain names and also (b) who have such legitimate fears that they must
stay in the shadows?

Where are they?  Can you find me even one of them?  I doubt it.

Look, this isn't brain surgery.  If you are in hiding in fear, either
for your personal safety or whatever, then fine.  Hide.  DO NOT get your
own bleedin' Internet domain name.

On the other hand, if you have something that absolutely needs to be
published AND if it needs to be published on the Internet, then you should
have the guts and the commitment and the courage to attach your name to
that publication.  Otherwise, if you can't stand the heat, then please
stay the fuck out of the kitchen.  You are not in any sense an asset to
public discourse and discussion of serious issues if you hide in the
shadows.  How could you be, when people don't know who you are, or who
is paying you to say what you are saying?  

If you don't understand what I'm talking about, then please allow me to
refer you to an Australian gentleman by the name of Julian Assange.  Unlike
all of your alleged ``millions'' of publishers who are so timid that they
feel compelled to hide behind trees, Mr. Assange at least showed the
courage of his convictions, and as a result, he _did_ make a difference
in the public discourse and discussion of important issues... unlike all
of your alleged millions of timid friends, who will never show themselves
and thus will never make any real difference to anything.  (They are just
engaging in their own public ego masturbation.)

>If ICANN policy actually respected privacy then there would be no need for
>these services.

So, by your logic, I should start up a service where (for a fee) I will
go to rental car places and rent cars for people who don't want to give
their own true and correct names and/or credit card numbers to the car
rental companies, correct?

This is just idiocy.  There are no such services because we don't need
them.  We also don't need domain registration phony baloney front men.
And when I say "we" I mean the NON-criminal users of the Internet.  (The
criminals and spammers of the Internet most surely DO need such services...
or at least they clearly benefit from them.)

>ICANN receives its funding from several sources, including registrars,

More bullshit.

More than 95% of ICANN's funding comes, directly or indirectly, from
registrars.

>but to claim that ICANN is run by registrars is both misinformed and very
>misleading.

Well, it has the advantage that it just happens to be true.

>A LOT of ICANN policy is driven by IP lawyers.

Whose lawyers?

The registrars?

I rest my case.

>Also, ICANN doesn't have any members.

True.  They only have revenue streams.  And they (ICANN) do what they
are told.

If you believe otherwise, then you are naive.


Regards,
rfg