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[anti-abuse-wg] [db-wg] [routing-wg] Solving the issue of rogue ROUTE objects in the RIPE Database
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Gert Doering
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Thu Nov 12 08:47:35 CET 2015
Hi, On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:00:11PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > > "Document everything one AS originates in a single database" is the > > primary motivation here (so upstreams/peers can go to a single source > > to build filters, and that single source must not be RADB). > > and why not? RADB? Because anyone can put arbitrary stuff in there and the operators seem more interested in selling maintainers (so you can protect your own objects that you have put in there, which shouldn't be there in the first place for RIPE region stuff). Now, if the RADB would only serve as aggregator for properly authenticated and sanitized objects from the 5 RIR IRRDBs, it would be useful. Right now, it is dangerous, because people building filters from it believe they are spending their efforts in a positive way. They are deluded, as anyone can circumvent these filters easily... (had this happen to a network of ours - the /22 was not announced yet, route: object entered into the RADB, announced for half an hour for spamming, merit refused to remove the rogue object because "please contact the people who put it in" even though it was perfectly clear from comparison with the mirrored RIPE objects that it was bogus). Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 811 bytes Desc: not available URL: </ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20151112/e8150084/attachment.sig>
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